Top-End Reassembly
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Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 00:16 - 24 Oct 2025 00:21
The head is out for valve guide service, and I'm working out a reassembly plan.
At this point I plan to reuse the 6K mile pistons and rings in the untouched (un-honed) cylinder bores.
The rings were carefully removed, and replaced after the pistons were cleaned, and after the intake valve pockets were modified for clearance.
So I'm essentially back to square one considering gap orientation, whether it makes any difference when reusing the rings.
Considering the following sketched options (recommendations?) before moving forward:
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At this point I plan to reuse the 6K mile pistons and rings in the untouched (un-honed) cylinder bores.
The rings were carefully removed, and replaced after the pistons were cleaned, and after the intake valve pockets were modified for clearance.
So I'm essentially back to square one considering gap orientation, whether it makes any difference when reusing the rings.
Considering the following sketched options (recommendations?) before moving forward:
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1982 KZ1100-A2
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 01:47
There are lot's of different opinions on this, my preference would be as per the pink sheet in the picture which looks like the manufacturer's install instructions
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
kzrider.com/filebase-alias?view=download...d-fault-diagnosis&ca
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 01:51 - 24 Oct 2025 01:53
It's good engineering practice to stagger the ring gaps on assembly but it doesn't really matter what degree of separation you use as they do rotate and constantly line up and pass each other in use.
I've always set the gaps on the 3 piece oil ring assembly at around 120 degrees apart and the two compression ring gaps at 180 to each other very much like Wiseco/MTC suggest..
I've always set the gaps on the 3 piece oil ring assembly at around 120 degrees apart and the two compression ring gaps at 180 to each other very much like Wiseco/MTC suggest..
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 08:05 - 24 Oct 2025 08:19There are lot's of different opinions on this, my preference would be as per the pink sheet in the picture which looks like the manufacturer's install instructions
IMO, the Wiseco/MTC illustration is confusing, regardless the time of day I look at it...mid-morning being the worst.
It appears to describe the right (or left?) hand side of a V-8 motor, like the fiasco one in my 07 GM truck.
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 08:19
I always followed the Kawasaki recommendation, It also depends on what type of ring compressor you are using. You will have a more harmonious outcome if the ring end gaps are captured by the compressor.
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 08:35There are lot's of different opinions on this, my preference would be as per the pink sheet in the picture which looks like the manufacturer's install instructions
IMO, the Wiseco/MTC illustration is confusing, regardless the time of day I look at it...mid-morning being the worst.
It appears to describe the right (or left?) hand side of a V-8 motor, like the fiasco one in my 07 GM truck.
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1982 KZ1000 Ltd
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
kzrider.com/filebase-alias?view=download...d-fault-diagnosis&ca
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
kzrider.com/filebase-alias?view=download...d-fault-diagnosis&ca
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 08:44 - 24 Oct 2025 09:11There are lot's of different opinions on this, my preference would be as per the pink sheet in the picture which looks like the manufacturer's install instructions
IMO, the Wiseco/MTC illustration is confusing, regardless the time of day I look at it...mid-morning being the worst.
It appears to describe the right (or left?) hand side of a V-8 motor, like the fiasco one in my 07 GM truck.
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 11:11
I am confused, that is pretty much what we have been saying with the exception of the wrist pin comment which contradicts MTC instructions !!! Where is it from ? I don’t see the correlation between ring gaps and wrist pin. I guess when you have contradictory guidance you need to go with your gut
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 11:33 - 24 Oct 2025 11:36
I always use MTC's ring install instructions, never had a issue. The majority of my big bore kits have been MTC, a couple of Wiseco's and JE's. Since my first bore kit was a MTC I always revert back to those instructions even if re-ringing stock Kawi pistons.
www.mtceng.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/0...kit_installation.pdf
www.mtceng.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/0...kit_installation.pdf
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 12:28I would second this - I have done over a dozen kzs the same.I always use MTC's ring install instructions, never had a issue. The majority of my big bore kits have been MTC, a couple of Wiseco's and JE's. Since my first bore kit was a MTC I always revert back to those instructions even if re-ringing stock Kawi pistons.
www.mtceng.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/0...kit_installation.pdf
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Re: Top-End Reassembly
24 Oct 2025 13:08It's AI crap....the wrist pin comment Where is it from ?
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