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Re: Phoenix Fighter
22 Dec 2013 17:37
lets try this again......
Well not a lot to report, waiting on parts.
I would like to get some opinions on my custom integrated brake light blinker. I have found some that fill the whole okay but they don't quit it for me. Here is what I'm thinking
The RED KZR will be tail light/brake the arc on the outside will be split in half for blinkers. Ideally I would like to make it out of aluminum but I may have to fiberglass it instead.
Well not a lot to report, waiting on parts.
I would like to get some opinions on my custom integrated brake light blinker. I have found some that fill the whole okay but they don't quit it for me. Here is what I'm thinking
The RED KZR will be tail light/brake the arc on the outside will be split in half for blinkers. Ideally I would like to make it out of aluminum but I may have to fiberglass it instead.
Jon
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
22 Dec 2013 17:45
Question:
How important is it to get the rear wheel exactly center. If a 1/2" front sprocket is good without an assist bearing but a 5/8" isn't. Can I just offset the rear wheel an 1/8". Will it really matter? This isn't a track bike by any means but I don't want it to handle incorrectly either. If offset of the rear wheel is allowed how much is the max offset before it affects handling
How important is it to get the rear wheel exactly center. If a 1/2" front sprocket is good without an assist bearing but a 5/8" isn't. Can I just offset the rear wheel an 1/8". Will it really matter? This isn't a track bike by any means but I don't want it to handle incorrectly either. If offset of the rear wheel is allowed how much is the max offset before it affects handling
Jon
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 00:04
Mine is offset about 0.170" and I can't tell. Corners real well both directions, runs straight as an arrow with my hands off the bars.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 08:30
lots of factory bikes are offset from the get go.
mine is offset 3/8's of an inch and i can tell no difference just like alan said
:Corners real well both directions, runs straight as an arrow with my hands off the bars.
i think it is a bigger deal in peoples minds than in actual application.
hth,
leon
mine is offset 3/8's of an inch and i can tell no difference just like alan said
:Corners real well both directions, runs straight as an arrow with my hands off the bars.
i think it is a bigger deal in peoples minds than in actual application.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 08:42 - 23 Dec 2013 08:50
My 1000 has a 5/8" offset front sprocket with no support and I've had no problems so far and the Gpz750 I'm building will be running 5/8" offset without a support too.. My 900 will have a 5/8" offset with a support but it's gonna have a nice built engine when I'm done.
EDIT: Kz1000 = 160mm tire (4.5" rim), Kz900 = 180-190mm extra sticky tire (6" rim) , Gpz750 = 170-180mm tire (5.5" rim).
Later, Doug
EDIT: Kz1000 = 160mm tire (4.5" rim), Kz900 = 180-190mm extra sticky tire (6" rim) , Gpz750 = 170-180mm tire (5.5" rim).
Later, Doug
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 09:05
Over the years I have swapped many different engines into frames they wern't made for. GPz1100 into a Gpz750 frame, GSXR 750 engine into KZ1000 frame, ect. When I get to the point of chain alignment I have always simply eye ball the chain from the rear wheel to the drive sprocket using a long straight wire for reference. I'm sure it's not perfect but it always works great. Bikes handle great and have no weird handling issues. I agree with 531blackbanshee, people tend to make a bigger deal out of it than it really is.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 10:40
Sweet! Thanks for allbthe feedback guys, its why I love this forrum so much.
Any opinions on the tail light mock up I posted a picture of earlier? I thought about getting rid of the duck tail but it is too much of the KZ style to delete it.
Any opinions on the tail light mock up I posted a picture of earlier? I thought about getting rid of the duck tail but it is too much of the KZ style to delete it.
Jon
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 11:04
I think the 03 ish CBR tail light might fit the bill. If I was doing my tail light over again that's what I would use. I saw a picture of one on a bike here on KZR and thought it looked real nice.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 11:13
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
23 Dec 2013 14:20
Thanks for that Alan. I actually have an integrated '01 Ducati light that fits just as well. I was just trying to go more custom. a lot of guys are doing the same mods I am so I like to invent a few one off items to keep some degrees of separation.
Comparing the two the Honda one does look to fit/fill better
Comparing the two the Honda one does look to fit/fill better
Jon
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
31 Jan 2014 10:25
As soon as I can figure out how to get the pivot bearings out of the swing arm to replace them I will be able to get my sprocket alignment figured out.
I am also debating making a custom rear duck tail out of aluminum. There are some cool things u want to do but I still want it recognizable as a KZ. It's why I have decided to go back to the single head light but with a super bright LED bulb.
I am also debating making a custom rear duck tail out of aluminum. There are some cool things u want to do but I still want it recognizable as a KZ. It's why I have decided to go back to the single head light but with a super bright LED bulb.
Jon
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