Additives to combat Ethanol

I didn't want to hijack another tread with this question,

Do any of you guys use additives that help protect vulnerable parts from the crap they're putting in today's fuels ?

I'm putting my faith in Marvels which claims to help keep the carbs clean and lubed but it doesn't say any thing about rubber parts.

Am I better off just sticking with premium gas ?

JD

buy ethanol free gas

pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov

bluej58 wrote: I didn't want to hijack another tread with this question,

Do any of you guys use additives that help protect vulnerable parts from the crap they're putting in today's fuels ?
JD

Yes, I use an octane booster with tetraethyl lead which is what gasoline had in it back in the 70's before all gas was unleaded.

www.batterystuff.com/fuel-treatments/OS6q.html

gengomerpyle wrote: buy ethanol free gas

Doesn't exist where I am.

Thanks for the info. MFolks

I'm right on edge of the "up to 10 percent Ethanol" only section of Illinois.
North , South and West of me have a station here and there.

Nice country roads

Unfortunately the closest one is around 25 miles away .

I used to buy my gas at the local Exxon. Now I noticed they have 10% ethanol . Now I'm not sure where to get gas, this shit is everywhere!

Local engine builder was giving me the lowdown on what ethanol does to injectors and valves after sitting for a while. He reccomended the Blue marine type sta-bil.

mystarbrite.com/startron/

Stuff is highly recommended by everyone i talk to. Originally developed for marine engines. Also acts as a gas preservative like stabil.

[/quote]Yes, I use an octane booster with tetraethyl lead which is what gasoline had in it back in the 70's before all gas was unleaded.


Yes I remember the days , was it Sunoco 280 or 240 not sure but great stuff.
everyone carried leaded.

bountyhunter, how much do you add to a tank, that stuff ain't cheep :whistle:

Brown_Muscle wrote: mystarbrite.com/startron/

Stuff is highly recommended by everyone i talk to. Originally developed for marine engines. Also acts as a gas preservative like stabil.

Thanks man , that looks like what I'm after, and there is a lot of places that carry it around here.

I'm sure my fishing boat could Benefit from this stuff Too

JD

I found this hope it helps


AVOID unecessary use of Gas Additives & Fuel System Treatment Products that contain alcohol with E10 gas blends...
Products that contain strong solvents, emulsifiers and water-absorbing agents should also not be used with E10 gas type.
Following simple precautions is usually enough to safely manage E10 in most (newer) engines, when you replace gas every 2-3 weeks, and are certain gas purchased contains less than 10% ethanol alcohol.
More Tips:
- Avoid gas additives that are water soluble. Use caution if additive is not compatible with strong "oxidizing" agents.
- Avoid products that state they will push water at bottom of tank back into upper petroleum layer - You do NOT want to constantly be running your engine on water-diluted, lean fuel.
- Since E10 is a strong solvent, cleanser, de-greaser, anti-freeze and octane enhancer, regular use of additional gas additives is usually unnecessary - Only unique circumstances will determine the need for additive use, (E.G. prolonged gas storage, high humidity/moist environments, marine engines, older vehicles).


- Using alcohol-based and strong solvent additives as a preventive measure in fresh, good e10 gasoline is not recommended, since this will only increase water absorption and parts disintegration, and may also raise ethanol content over manufacturer recommended 10% maximum.
- Please do not misinterpret the purpose of the chart below. Many reputable gas treatment products contain alcohols and ethanol.
But ask yourself, why add more alcohol, for "prevention" for ethanol alcohol-caused gas problems? Simply makes no sense...
While several products in the market can help to combat specific negative effects of ethanol, no "miracle" product exists for all situations. Don't fall prey to deceptive advertising that often use misleading scare tactics....
Additives should only be used with ethanol-blends when other simple E10 precautions are not enough...
Examples: Ethanol gas causing drying out or disintegration of parts? Chose a lubricating fuel conditioner. Excessive water absorption in tank? After ruling out all possible causes, (E.G. Gas water-contaminated at time of purchase, dislodged hose or other repairable open entry in fuel system) - Choose a product that helps to delay phase separation or breaks down water molecules (stabilizer). Rusting of engine parts? Choose a corrosion inhibitor...

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REVIEW LIST: Does your gas additive contain alcohol and/or water absorbing ingredients?
(For informational purposes only - There are many thousands of gas additive products; Products listed below are just examples).

Is your gas additive safe with E10 fuel?011112-1600- Page update in progress -Adding new information + 121611-04070918191208 0130Home Order Contact Us
www.fueltestkit.comPRODUCT NAME
®: All product names below are assumed to be registered trademarks.
X = In our opinion, not recommended and/or contraindicated with ethanol blends of gasoline.
* = Our favorite products, safe with E10, when a gas additive is necessary... PRIMARY INGREDIENT CONTAINS
ALCOHOL WATER SOLUBLE/
ABSORBS WATER MSDS
Reviewed
Amsoil Gasoline Stabilizer Petroleum Distillates... NO Negligible X
X CD2 Engine Tune-up Methanol 60-70%, isopropanol alcohol, 2-Butoxyethanol, Diacetone alcohol... YES YES

Chevron Techtron Concentrate Plus Distillates Hydrotreated Light, Stoddard Solvent... NO NO X
X CRC for Gas Tanks Isopropyl Alcohol YES YES X
X CRC Stor-X Fuel Stabilizer Stoddard solvent, 2-Butoxyethanol YES "Negligible in water" X
X Evinrude 2+4 Fuel Conditioner 95% Isopropyl Alcohol YES YES X
X Ezorb - See warning notes below. Unknown N/A YES Not available
X Iso-Heet and HEET (Gold Eagle) 99% Isopropanol Alcohol YES YES X
X K100MG Marine Gas Treatment 2-Butoxyethanol YES YES X
Klotz Octane Booster (KL602) Petroleum Distillage NOS "Not Alcohol Compatible" YES X
Lucas Octane Booster Petroleum Distillate, Parrafins NO NO X
Maxima Racing Oils - Hi-Test Octane Booster Toluene (80-100%) and Isopropyl Alcohol (10-20%). YES YES X
* Maxima Racing Oils USA High Performance Lubricants - FUEL STABILIZER AND CORROSION INHIBITOR Naphtha Medium Aliphatic CAS#64742-88-7, Hydroxyethylated Aminoethylamide,Alkarylamine, Xylene. NO NO X
X Mercury Marine Fuel System Cleaner Refined Petroleum Oil, Isopropanol Alcohol YES YES X
X Mercury Marine Fuel System Treatment and Stabilizer Isopropanol Alcohol YES YES X
Mercury Quicksilver (Citgo) Stoddard Solvent NO Negligible X
X #131 Neutra Fuel Stabilizer (Schaeffer)
See footnote #3. Information Removed on 04/07/09 due to Schaeffer Company Request. Information Removed (3) Information Removed (3) X
X Pennzoil Marine Fuel System Cleaner & Stabilizer Petroleum Distillates YES NO X
PRI-G Gasoline Fuel Treatment ShellsolD60, mixture of amines, organic dispersants. See Note (1 ) NO YES X
Quickleen Engine Treatment (Mercury) Ethyl Benzene, Mineral Spirits Solvent + Inconclusive NO X
X Quicksilver Fuel System Treatment & Stabilizer Isopropanol Alcohol YES YES X
X Seafoam Motor Treatment Pale Oil, Naphtha, "IPA" Isopropyl Alcohol. See Note (2) YES NO See Note (2) X
X Snap Gas Line Antifreee (Penzoil Quaker) Methyl Alcohol, Stabilizer (trade secret). YES NO X
* Sta-bil Fuel Stabilizer PN 22213 - Gold Eagle Company Petroleum Distillate Naphtha Solvent 95% (CAS# 64742-53-6: aka Transformer Oil, HYNAP® and others) + Undisclosed Additive Mixture 5%. NO Negligible X
10/21/11
Stabil Marine Fuel Stabilizer PN 22239 and 22240 - Gold Eagle Company Petroleum Distillate CAS# 64742-47-8 80% + Additive Mixture 20%. NO Negligible X
5/21/09
* STAR*TRON GASOLINE ADDITIVE
PN: 14308, 14301, 93008, 93016, 93016, 93032 - Starbrite Company
View Technical Ad
"Revolutionary fuel treatment is based on enzyme technology". Solvent Naphtha (Petroleum) Heavy Aliphatic CAS# 64742-96-7 > 95 and Proprietary Organic Compounds < 0.5. NO Less than 0.01 X
9/30/08
X Turbo Octane Boost 108 (North American Oil Company) Isobutyl alcohol, Methanol and t-butyl alcohol YES YES X
ValvTect Marine Gasoline and Diesel Fuel Stabilizer Kerosene, Butylated Phenol NO NO X

www.fuel-testers.com/is_gas_additive_safe_with_e10_list.html

YES! YES! YES! Am I loud enough???????????????
Here in Western New York, it is all 10 %.

I am a firm believer in Marvels Mystery Oil!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have been for 40 Years!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I run it in my old Harley with the original soft valve seats.
I put marvels in my 2008 Dodge Caliber!
I put Marvels in my garage Fuel oil furnace!

And! this is a new product! Everyone should buy it and use it! Call them and tell Peter Carr, Marty from Buffalo turned you on to this stuff!!!!!!!!!!
Hello! I will debate anyone over this subject!!!!!!!!!
Do it or else!!!!!

New Product! If I bought a new car, I would put this in the gas tank, the minute I drove off the showroom floor!!!!!!! Plain and simple!!!!!!!!!


Go online. and check this out. Then call Peter Carr, the owner. Tell him Marty informed you about this product. Buy and use it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sorry to be so bold, but I just had to do it!!
wellworthproducts.com/index.cfm?fuseacti...splay&category_id=80

Thank the hippies and obama??son! Whatever? F T W!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!