Why no love for the 650 CSR?
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Re: Why no love for the 650 CSR?
Yesterday 13:39 - Yesterday 13:40
I think the big issue with them is the buck horn bars, and the fact that they don't have the classic Z tail. The forks are a bit soft but that can be fixed.
They ride just fine, but are not setup for dropping into corners, that is where a middle weight bike shines the most.
As a owner of several KZ650's I have always shied away from buying them or the SR just from a styling stand point. Personally I don't think they suck but I think Kawasaki caved to the North American market on the styling front.
I think Kawasaki should have made a +800 cc model version of the classic KZ like Suzuki did with the GS850, that would have sold tons.
They ride just fine, but are not setup for dropping into corners, that is where a middle weight bike shines the most.
As a owner of several KZ650's I have always shied away from buying them or the SR just from a styling stand point. Personally I don't think they suck but I think Kawasaki caved to the North American market on the styling front.
I think Kawasaki should have made a +800 cc model version of the classic KZ like Suzuki did with the GS850, that would have sold tons.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
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Re: Why no love for the 650 CSR?
Yesterday 13:58 - Yesterday 14:54
Just my opinion, but while they sold well back in the day, the LTD style bikes didn't age well.
This CSR seems to have been a bit of a budget cruiser. Spoke wheels, buckhorn handlebars, with the turn signals attached, small gas tank, limited ground clearance. If someone wanted to normalize one of these bikes, it would take a little more work than starting with a standard in the first place. That said, if I were in the market for a new/used KZ, and if I came across a creampuff CSR, I'd buy it, then work to customize it to my liking. It's not drastically different from other KZ's. The core goodness is all there.
This CSR seems to have been a bit of a budget cruiser. Spoke wheels, buckhorn handlebars, with the turn signals attached, small gas tank, limited ground clearance. If someone wanted to normalize one of these bikes, it would take a little more work than starting with a standard in the first place. That said, if I were in the market for a new/used KZ, and if I came across a creampuff CSR, I'd buy it, then work to customize it to my liking. It's not drastically different from other KZ's. The core goodness is all there.
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Carb O-ring Kits : www.kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/61807...-o-ring-kits?start=0
www.kzrider.com/forum/faq-wiki/618026-new-owner-things-to-know
1981 KZ750E2
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/604901...z750e-project-thread
Carb O-ring Kits : www.kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/61807...-o-ring-kits?start=0
www.kzrider.com/forum/faq-wiki/618026-new-owner-things-to-know
1981 KZ750E2
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/604901...z750e-project-thread
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Re: Why no love for the 650 CSR?
Yesterday 14:24Exactly what I am doing, started with the cheapest of KZ1000's and knocking the Ltd out of itJust my opinion, but while they sold well back in the day, the LTD style bikes didn't age well.
This CSR seems to have been a bit of a budget cruiser. Spoke wheels, buckhorn handlebars, with the turn signals attached, small gas tank, limited ground clearance. If someone wanted to normalize one of these bikes, it would take a little more work than a standard in the first place. That said, if I were in the market for a new/used KZ, and if I came across a creampuff CSR, I'd buy it, then work to customize it to my liking. It's not drastically different from other KZ's. The core goodness is all there.
1982 KZ1000 Ltd
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
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www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/617631...-82-begins?start=192
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Re: Why no love for the 650 CSR?
Yesterday 14:56Exactly what I am doing, started with the cheapest of KZ1000's and knocking the Ltd out of itJust my opinion, but while they sold well back in the day, the LTD style bikes didn't age well.
This CSR seems to have been a bit of a budget cruiser. Spoke wheels, buckhorn handlebars, with the turn signals attached, small gas tank, limited ground clearance. If someone wanted to normalize one of these bikes, it would take a little more work than a standard in the first place. That said, if I were in the market for a new/used KZ, and if I came across a creampuff CSR, I'd buy it, then work to customize it to my liking. It's not drastically different from other KZ's. The core goodness is all there.
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kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/598262-kz-...-will-it-live#672882
kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/597654-poser?start=240#704229
kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/598262-kz-...-will-it-live#672882
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Re: Why no love for the 650 CSR?
Yesterday 15:21Just my opinion, but while they sold well back in the day, the LTD style bikes didn't age well.
This CSR seems to have been a bit of a budget cruiser. Spoke wheels, buckhorn handlebars, with the turn signals attached, small gas tank, limited ground clearance. If someone wanted to normalize one of these bikes, it would take a little more work than starting with a standard in the first place. That said, if I were in the market for a new/used KZ, and if I came across a creampuff CSR, I'd buy it, then work to customize it to my liking. It's not drastically different from other KZ's. The core goodness is all there.
I like that. The core goodness is all there. I don't know how reliable it is but I looked up some values on JD Power and found an 81 CSR considerably less valuable than the 77 B1 I should be getting later this year (which, unfortunately will need work to bring it back to the stock condition I prefer). Then on a whim I looked up my 82KZ305 CSR and was stunned that its (supposedly) more valuable than an 81 650 CSR. I don't believe that for a minute but it does show how little respect they get.
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