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Phoenix Fighter 14 Dec 2013 17:59 #615534

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It still hurts a little to look at her this way




Like the Phoenix which rises from the ashes for rebirth, so will the Phoenix Fighter!
That resurrection began today.

99 Gixxer with USD forks






98 Gixxer swinger






A quick comparison :woohoo:



I'm so flipping excited right now!
I will get some mock up pictures up soon! There is so much work to be done in the next 6 months so she is ready for the rally in August.
Jon
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Phoenix Fighter 14 Dec 2013 19:06 #615537

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Looks like a great build your starting. After my crash my poor 650 sat in the corner of my garage for about 1 year before I could work on her. Hope to see you at the rally, Good luck.

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Phoenix Fighter 14 Dec 2013 19:09 #615538

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Better. Stronger. Faster!

You have the technology...
1980 KZ750-H1 (slightly altered)
1987 KZ1000-P6 "Ponch"
1979 GS1000 "Dadzuki"

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Phoenix Fighter 16 Dec 2013 06:46 #615607

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^what gg said :evil: !

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Phoenix Fighter 16 Dec 2013 07:11 #615609

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Sorry to see your bike in such sad shape. Just in case you didn't know, the front end is either a Gsxr750W ('94-95) or a Gsxr1100 which stopped being made in 1998. And the swingarm is a Gs1100E item with a Gsxr7500/1100 rim.

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Phoenix Fighter 16 Dec 2013 12:28 #615633

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StreetfighterKz wrote: Sorry to see your bike in such sad shape. Just in case you didn't know, the front end is either a Gsxr750W ('94-95) or a Gsxr1100 which stopped being made in 1998. And the swingarm is a Gs1100E item with a Gsxr7500/1100 rim.

Later, Doug


Doug thank you for the information I did not know I don't know how you know all that information just by looking at them. I bought the front and the two wheels from a salvage yard was on a drag bike project. they told me they were 99 forks I didn't know how to identify them. the swingarm I knew about I bought that separately off of ebay a few months ago. Again thanks for the information though. unfortunately that takes me out of the AllBalls bearing swap opportunity.
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Phoenix Fighter 16 Dec 2013 14:55 #615658

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if front end is from a 1100 ...look just like mine....bearing conversion will work
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #42....17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Green )40Kmiles
1974 Z1 900A ( Project)
1975 GT750m 18k miles

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Phoenix Fighter 18 Dec 2013 10:01 #615815

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Damnnn, your bike was really badly hurt. Excited to see how it rises from the ashes. btw, if that was you who was riding when you wrecked, I'd definitely suggest getting some gear man. ATGATT you never know when someone ( not you ) might fuck up and you'll need a jacket to prevent road rash. Check out www.motorcyclehouse.com for reasonable priced jackets. Ebay is also a great place to find deals.

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Phoenix Fighter 18 Dec 2013 10:40 #615820

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mdouglas71 wrote: Damnnn, your bike was really badly hurt. Excited to see how it rises from the ashes. btw, if that was you who was riding when you wrecked, I'd definitely suggest getting some gear man. ATGATT you never know when someone ( not you ) might fuck up and you'll need a jacket to prevent road rash. Check out www.motorcyclehouse.com for reasonable priced jackets. Ebay is also a great place to find deals.


Mdouglas71,

It looks worse than it is. No frame damage. I could have just replaced the stock forks and front wheel and it would have been right back on the road.

I was geared up, if I wasn't I would not be able to ride any more. It happened in Idaho when I was transferring the flag. Had a deer jump out in front of me mid corner. By the time I avoided him there was not enough corner left the get the bike back on course. They had just chip sealed the road the month prior so there was excess gravel on the edge, my tire hit that gravel and that was all she wrote. The front tire hit a 8X8 post used for guard rail a day tacoed the front wheel and bent the forks.

What is important here is that I got to walk away because I had full gear on.
Jon
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Phoenix Fighter 22 Dec 2013 16:34 #616172

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Well not a lot to report, waiting on parts.
I would like to get some opinions on my custom integrated brake light blinker. I have found some that fill the whole okay but they don't quit it for me. Here is what I'm thinking




The RED KZR will be tail light/brake the arc on the outside will be split in half for blinkers. Ideally I would like to make it out of aluminum but I may have to fiberglass it instead.
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Phoenix Fighter 22 Dec 2013 16:35 #616173

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Bugger the pic didn't load.
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Phoenix Fighter 22 Dec 2013 17:16 #616180

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Phoenix Fighter 22 Dec 2013 17:37 #616182

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lets try this again......


Well not a lot to report, waiting on parts.
I would like to get some opinions on my custom integrated brake light blinker. I have found some that fill the whole okay but they don't quit it for me. Here is what I'm thinking




The RED KZR will be tail light/brake the arc on the outside will be split in half for blinkers. Ideally I would like to make it out of aluminum but I may have to fiberglass it instead.
Jon
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Phoenix Fighter 22 Dec 2013 17:45 #616183

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Question:
How important is it to get the rear wheel exactly center. If a 1/2" front sprocket is good without an assist bearing but a 5/8" isn't. Can I just offset the rear wheel an 1/8". Will it really matter? This isn't a track bike by any means but I don't want it to handle incorrectly either. If offset of the rear wheel is allowed how much is the max offset before it affects handling
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Phoenix Fighter 23 Dec 2013 00:04 #616191

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Mine is offset about 0.170" and I can't tell. Corners real well both directions, runs straight as an arrow with my hands off the bars.

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Phoenix Fighter 23 Dec 2013 08:30 #616213

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lots of factory bikes are offset from the get go.

mine is offset 3/8's of an inch and i can tell no difference just like alan said
:Corners real well both directions, runs straight as an arrow with my hands off the bars.

i think it is a bigger deal in peoples minds than in actual application.

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Phoenix Fighter 23 Dec 2013 08:42 #616214

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My 1000 has a 5/8" offset front sprocket with no support and I've had no problems so far and the Gpz750 I'm building will be running 5/8" offset without a support too.. My 900 will have a 5/8" offset with a support but it's gonna have a nice built engine when I'm done.

EDIT: Kz1000 = 160mm tire (4.5" rim), Kz900 = 180-190mm extra sticky tire (6" rim) , Gpz750 = 170-180mm tire (5.5" rim).

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Phoenix Fighter 23 Dec 2013 09:05 #616218

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Over the years I have swapped many different engines into frames they wern't made for. GPz1100 into a Gpz750 frame, GSXR 750 engine into KZ1000 frame, ect. When I get to the point of chain alignment I have always simply eye ball the chain from the rear wheel to the drive sprocket using a long straight wire for reference. I'm sure it's not perfect but it always works great. Bikes handle great and have no weird handling issues. I agree with 531blackbanshee, people tend to make a bigger deal out of it than it really is.

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Sweet! Thanks for allbthe feedback guys, its why I love this forrum so much.

Any opinions on the tail light mock up I posted a picture of earlier? I thought about getting rid of the duck tail but it is too much of the KZ style to delete it.
Jon
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Phoenix Fighter 23 Dec 2013 11:04 #616230

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I think the 03 ish CBR tail light might fit the bill. If I was doing my tail light over again that's what I would use. I saw a picture of one on a bike here on KZR and thought it looked real nice.

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