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I'm ready to start putting the bike back together this coming week but I will have to wait for a new paint job.

Got a real nice replacement cover from Brian / kz10006 but it's black and I'm not going to try and match 25 year + paint.

Can someone tell me what I can use that will stick to an American side cover to build a temporary tab to get me through the season ?




Thanks , JD

I have used zip ties and an old solder iron to plastic weld with good results. If you do not have the broken off piece then there are products that will make use of a known good pin to mold a new one. Like this site www.plastex.net/index.php?pr=Home_Page There are others just do a google search for plastic repair.

if this is just to get u through the summer. u could put a hole in the side, put a zip tie though and then attach a spring and hook from the tie to something under the seat ??
been there done that.

That Plastex looks like cool stuff, and only 14 bucks + shipping for the kit,and should be enough to do what I need done, if I don't screw it up

I also like your idea Mark , I may do a hybrid along those lines by trying to form a level surface with fiberglass then add the spring and wire.

Thanks guys
JD

Most street motorcycle plastic bodywork is made with either Styrene or ABS plastic. Here's a method for repairing these bodywork panels that's effective and inexpensive.

I've repaired any number of motorcycle side covers and fairings over the years. Up until now my stand by material was JB Weld. Even though I knew that it didn't adhere to any plastics very well. Today there are many plastic repair epoxies that actually do adhere to a wide range of plastics. My first comment is that: Most of them smell like nerve poison, Seconded quickly by my stumbling on their unit costs. You know that they're exotic chemicals because you're Paying for Exotic Chemicals!!! I don't pretend to be a chemical engineer and I've never worked in a body shop, but recently I did have a momentary flash of understanding that may make your plastic repair experience less expensive and significantly easier. For purposes of this discussion, since I'm not an enjuneer, I'd like to divide motorcycle plastics into three crude categories.
1) Black plastic, usually ABS.
2) Chromed plastic, usually a sputtered metallic coating on what I loosely refer to as styrene plastic.
3) Polyethylene plastics, usually used on dirt bikes and personal water craft because they are very flexible and float.
Black or ABS plastic: Currently I'm repairing a chopped down fairing for my 85 1300. It has several large stress fractures that I think are caused by vibration and flexure. I could see that the PO had applied some sort epoxy filler in futile attempt to reinforce the cracks. His effort failed when the epoxy filler split at the same locations, probably because it was much stiffer than the plastic. I used a wood chisel to split most of the thicker sections of his epoxy off of the plastic and cleaned the area with alcohol. In the past at this point I had usually resorted to fiberglass fabric and JB Weld, which probably would have sufficed this time except that this effort was going to consume way more JB Weld than I had ever used before. I knew that whatever I tried would have to incorporate some sort of fiber reinforcement. I also knew that the plastic was ABS. It took a while but I finally realized that there was no reason why I couldn't use fiberglass fabric for the reinforcement and black ABS pipe cement for the adhesive/resin. It worked great! It's the perfect combination. Cheap, Fast and Durable! And the results look like they grew that way with no sanding. Probably a good idea to use gloves as ABS cement is toxic and is not easily removed from your hands. You can also use the "universal" cement as long as it says ABS on the can.
Here's the crack before I went after it.

Here it is with the fabric bedded into the glue.

And with a topping coat worked into the fabric.

Here's the inside surface.

The glue cured up smooth and hard in about an hour.

Chromed plastic, styrenes as far as I need to know. I've repaired styrene plastic with a similar technique. Here is a styrene side cover from my 1300 Voyager that had the lower post broken off. In this first picture I've scraped off the chrome covering to expose the cream colored plastic, which I believe is styrene. I cleaned the whole area with denatured alcohol and then used plastic model cement to glue the post back in place.

Of course model cement alone would never be strong enough so I used fiberglass fabric to reinforce the base connection. Here's a picture of the fabric laid into a wet layer of model cement. There are actually two layers of fiberglass fabric. The model cement anchors the fiberglass soundly to the base plastic.

Here's the post after I've trimmed up the glass fabric and applied another coat of model cement.

One more view:

That brings us to the polyethylene's, the floating plastics, these are really unimportant as they have never been used on KZs

Thanks

Bill R

Now that's cool, I think I'll go find a pc. of ABS and carve something up.
Thanks Bill.

JD

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OK, I went to the Farm and Fleet hoping they had ABS piping and glue, no luck.
They did have this epoxy that has ABS at the top of the list along with steel, so for 3 bucks I went for it.

Guess what, It freakin worked

Here are the results

I found this plastic wrench at home and I borrowed the end from, it's hard but I'm not positive that it is ABS, I used it any way .




I filled the underside with epoxy and cut it off



I tacked the tab in place with a couple small dabs of hot glue.






I used my spare black side cover to make impressions in the card board for use as a template .

It ain't pretty but it seems solid to me

JD

Nice job with the photo essay...very helpful!

JD, how has your repair held? I have been researching products in preparation to repair a cracked side cover. Looking for a repair material which some flex to it. I would love to get the Weld-on 810 but seems to be for industrial sale only. The other options are Plastex, which is too expensive and I might as well invest the money into a replacement cover at that point. Another is the Loctite Epoxy Plastic Bonder which is like $6 from Home Depot. Other option I am considering is what you used: Permatex PermaPoxy Plastic Weld, which seems to have the same properties as the Loctite one. So if yours has held up well, I think I will go ahead and try it. Thanks in advance.

Hey Joe, it's holding up very well, 9500 miles so far.

There is no flex to this product though and if you are using it for a crack I would back it up with a piece of ABS or some other material that they say it will stick to.

Please document what you are doing if you can.

JD

Here's what it looks like now .