Weird electronic ignition?!

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Weird electronic ignition?!

03 Mar 2019 11:39
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Hey yall. Im new here but had an account in the past

Looking to see if u guys can educate me on this electronic ignition

Im familiar with dyna not this one. Bought it used from a kz fanatic here in town.
Hoping its actually from a kz650


Will these coils and ignition work ok?
And is using points with these accell coils worth it or is the stock just fine?


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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

03 Mar 2019 13:02
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The stock coils are high quality and have the proper resistance to work with the whatever type of ignition Kawasaki put on your bike stock. Points ignition system coils have more resistance than those of the coils that came with the electronic ignition fitted later. If you want to use those Accel coils you should check resistance and make sure they are compatible with your bikes needs. You may need a ballast resistor.

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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

03 Mar 2019 17:14
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Understandable.

I do know stock coils work with electronic ignition.

What im mainly curious about is what brand ignition is this

Only stamp says kw. Doesnt look exactly like the dyna

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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

04 Mar 2019 13:41
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I'm pretty sure that's the trigger plate from the Dyna III ignition. I have one on my bike, but I haven't looked at it in a number of years.

www.midwesttraction.com/store/c265/ignit...cycle-street--d37-1/

www.powercommander.com/downloads/Support...nuals/D32-1_32-2.pdf

If it is a Dyna III, it's just a trigger. You need the igniter box to make it work. Also, you need the rotor with magnet to complete the trigger assembly (this replaces the points cam on the advancer).
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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

04 Mar 2019 13:46 - 04 Mar 2019 13:52
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Yes, like DOHC said, it's a Dyna III. It's the predecessor to the Dyna S. That particular plate is for inline-four Kz400/500/550/650/700/750 motors.

The Dyna III requires a Dyna III igniter box to control the coils. That plate only has pickups.
It also requires a Dyna III rotor with a permanent magnet embedded in it. I think a rotor from a Dyna S might also work with the Dyna III, at least there is a chance of it.

I believe the Dyna III might require 3 ohm or higher coils just as the Dyna S requires. Stock points-coils should work fine with that ignition. Stock points coils are nominally 4 ohms.

The coils in your photos are most likely 3 ohm Accel coils. (You should measure them to be sure.) They can work temporarily with points, but will accelerate point wear. They would work fine with either the Dyna S or Dyna III and a factory electronic ignition as well.

You should not use factory electronic ignition coils with the Dyna S or Dyna III. The factory electronic coils are nominally 2.3 ohms.
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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

04 Mar 2019 14:08
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The Dyna III pickup plate and igniter box should look like this

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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

07 Mar 2019 15:46
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Man u guys rock i appriciate that info

So basically i want to get the dyna s.
Id prefer not to have the ignitor box.

Just more shit to break lol

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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

07 Mar 2019 19:35
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The Dyna S is a good product, but before we can recommend a solution we need to know what specific year and model you want to put it on. :)
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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

08 Mar 2019 02:56
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Trackerkz650sr wrote: So basically i want to get the dyna s.
Yes! just get a Dyna S.
No ignitor box needed.
Fit and forget.
It will work with stock or performance coils with enough spark to light a bucket of piss.
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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

08 Mar 2019 13:11
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those Accel coils are pretty nice. 140403 is the 3 ohm coil. I have them on my GSXR. The only thing is they are prone to rust on the spark plug wire terminals

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Re: Weird electronic ignition?!

08 Mar 2019 15:20 - 08 Mar 2019 15:20
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zed1015 wrote: It will work with stock or performance coils with enough spark to light a bucket of piss.

Tanks alot Zed! I almost spit my coffee all over my notebook while glancing through this thread!

And exactly how much voltage does it take to light a bucket of piss? :woohoo:

Inquiring minds want to know. lol

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