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1980 KZ440 A-1 LTD electronic ignition 11 Oct 2017 18:48 #772749

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Hello, I’m a newbie here so I apologize in advance if this topic has been covered.
I have a 1980 kz440 a-1 LTD and I’m having serious problems with the points on the bike. I went to get replacements but it wasn’t even remotely the same to the factory points and the other set was going to be a few weeks before arrival. So I have tested the coil and it’s in great condition it produces a nice blue spark, and the wires look good going to the points. My question is would it be possible to or do they make a kit for an electronic ignition for the 80’ 440 LTD? I’ve seen the 750 kit from dyna but nothing for the 440. Would a retro-fit or one of their kits work? I really can’t stand these points and I’d much rather have an electronic system. Thank you in advance!!

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1980 KZ440 A-1 LTD electronic ignition 11 Oct 2017 20:42 #772756

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The later model 440s, 1982and up I think, came with electronic ignition. The factory pieces should b a pretty straight forward conversion.
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1980 KZ440 A-1 LTD electronic ignition 12 Oct 2017 05:34 #772763

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You can use the electronic ignition from an 81-83 KZ440 or 82-84 KZ750-Twin. Igniter, pulsing coil, igniton coil & 440 elec ign advancer. If you get the 750T stuff, you'd need the 440 advancer.

Dyna S. The 750T info below may work on a 440. I don't know if the Dyna rotor will fit the 440 advancer, but the 440 does have the same advancer bolt & advancer "nut" as just about every KZ known to man. I'm not sure if you could use the 440 points advancer or if you have to get the elec ign advancer. You would need the green 3.0 ohms coils or coil. pretty sure.

From a KZ750 Twins forum by Biquetoast: options for electronic ignition.
Dyna S (half of one, at least). I have read a bit about fitting half of a standard Dyna S ignition to a points plate, and I try to summarize the essentials here…. As fellow KTOF member Martijn put it, “A Dyna S has no black box (igniter). The unit on the base plate is all. !!! It only has a current wire from the system and a wire to the coil, that’s it. Its trigger is a magnet in the plastic rotor simply placed on the ATU (auto timing unit or timing advancer body). That’s why the Dyna S is so simple and that’s why if you buy one for a four cylinder you get two units and you only have to buy an extra trigger.
On ebay for approx $120 (=dyna S for the Z650) rotor will be $20. You use the advancer of the stock ignition. You only swap the rotors, the part with the lobe on it. (which opens your contact breaker). Replace this with the Dyna rotor which also slides over the bolt. Bolt it and replace ignition plate. One wire to the + other to the coil et voila.
You only change the ignition plate and rotor, so you still have the advance characteristics of your own. ”
KTOF member Northwin added this: “…bought a Dyna S 2-2 (1695 SEK) and installed it in my 750 B2. The timing does not fit, you must move the electric unit counterclockwise on the ignition plate in order to get correct timing. The rotor placed on the existing (points) timing advancer does not fit very well, there’s too much play.” END.

C5 Motorcycle Optical Ignitions. www.c5ignitions.com/motorcycle-ignitions. I think this is a modern version of a Martek ignition, but don't quote me on that. Martek was a light emitting diode system.
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1980 KZ440 A-1 LTD electronic ignition 12 Oct 2017 15:48 #772802

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Okay great, thank you for the info!

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Wonderful write up of info to use, thank you so much!

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1980 KZ440 A-1 LTD electronic ignition 22 Aug 2018 13:37 #789589

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Is it necessary to swap the timing advancer that the stock points system uses for the one that's used with the electronic system or are both the centrifugal advancers the same?

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