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Interesting Find RE: Points 27 Jun 2007 13:14 #153161

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I wanted to start going over the ignition system on my bike to make sure its in decent shape. I open the points cover, and find some interesting things.

1.)The manual refers to a "pry plate" to adjust timing. I dont have one.

2.)Also, the manual states that as you turn the crankshaft with a socket, the points should be opening/closing as it goes around. I can go 360 with my crank, and the points don't move a millimeter.

Any thoughts? These threw me for a loop. I'm a TOTAL noob when it comes to bikes, though. So please be gentle. I have Dyna coils, so perhaps some mods have been done by the PO? Dyna ignition? How do you guys think I should proceed?

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Paulie

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27 Jun 2007 13:49 #153173

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Interesting Find RE: Points 27 Jun 2007 14:47 #153189

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paulie wrote:

I wanted to start going over the ignition system on my bike to make sure its in decent shape. I open the points cover, and find some interesting things.

1.)The manual refers to a "pry plate" to adjust timing. I dont have one.

2.)Also, the manual states that as you turn the crankshaft with a socket, the points should be opening/closing as it goes around. I can go 360 with my crank, and the points don't move a millimeter.

Any thoughts? These threw me for a loop. I'm a TOTAL noob when it comes to bikes, though. So please be gentle. I have Dyna coils, so perhaps some mods have been done by the PO? Dyna ignition? How do you guys think I should proceed?

Thanks,
Paulie


Take a picture and post it here in the forum.

Since you are a TOTAL noob, what you are looking at might not be points.

The missing "pry plate" is a clue that maybe other things, i.e. points, are no longer part of your ignition equation.

If the bike is running right now, leave it alone, until you and we are sure of what you are dealing with.

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Interesting Find RE: Points 27 Jun 2007 15:14 #153200

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Yes...what KazooDude said up there.B)


Bring on the pics.
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Interesting Find RE: Points 27 Jun 2007 19:13 #153282

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The wiring diagram shows the F1 uses points stock.

My points plate does not have the pry points either.

Some points plates have the points on their own small plates that are individully adjustable. This pic shows that type. Loosen the two screws (circled) and use the pry points (arrow) to adjust. The points are mounted on smaller plates which are fastened by the two screws below the ones circled:


This is what my points plate, without the smaller plates looks like:


And a Kawi electroinc Ign. without points:


Post edited by: rstnick, at: 2007/06/27 22:18
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Interesting Find RE: Points 30 Jun 2007 05:28 #153841

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Paulie, as you mught remember I also own a '80 F1. Mine does have a pry plate. Make sure you are under the right hand cover (2 screws) as sitting on the bike. I use a Dyna S now but here is a pic of my previous point system.
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Interesting Find RE: Points 30 Jun 2007 07:37 #153864

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Paulie to clarify on bluemeanie's point picture... I don't think the stock points assembly comes with the nifty blue tape bwhahaha
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Interesting Find RE: Points 30 Jun 2007 09:57 #153884

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hey george, that is the super secret blue tape, its alomost better than duct tape:woohoo:
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Interesting Find RE: Points 01 Jul 2007 20:26 #154144

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Yea,yea, you guys sooo funny!:woohoo: Actually, the rubber grommet for the wires fell apart so I used some silicon to secure them. I used the tape to keep it even with the edge till it set up.
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