Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
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Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
26 Apr 2007 20:12
Hey all-
I have been trying to find an electronic conversion kit for my trusty twin (Red Betty) as I am have a heck of a time with timing issues.
Can't find any Newtronic KAW3 kits. And since Autocar bought them out, they haven't started production again and have no idea when they will. And motorcycle-ignition.com doesn't have any left
I keep seeing reference to a Boyer Bransden kit but all I see are kits for the 4cyls.
I understand that you can cannibalize parts off a KZ400/440 but I'm unsure which parts I need.
Can anyone help?
Thanks one million dollars.
Post edited by: PortlandKZ, at: 2007/04/26 23:57
I have been trying to find an electronic conversion kit for my trusty twin (Red Betty) as I am have a heck of a time with timing issues.
Can't find any Newtronic KAW3 kits. And since Autocar bought them out, they haven't started production again and have no idea when they will. And motorcycle-ignition.com doesn't have any left
I keep seeing reference to a Boyer Bransden kit but all I see are kits for the 4cyls.
I understand that you can cannibalize parts off a KZ400/440 but I'm unsure which parts I need.
Can anyone help?
Thanks one million dollars.

Post edited by: PortlandKZ, at: 2007/04/26 23:57
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
26 Apr 2007 20:31
1979 kz650 B. Chicago, Illinois
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
26 Apr 2007 20:44
Thanks but that for a KZ650 which is a 4cyl (correct?) I need for a twin.
Does anyone know if you can use just one of the pickups from a 4cyl kit? Does that work?
Post edited by: PortlandKZ, at: 2007/04/26 23:58
Does anyone know if you can use just one of the pickups from a 4cyl kit? Does that work?
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 05:53
I haven't found any four cylinder pick up that will bolt right on.
The 440 and 82-83 750 twin ignition are the only ones I have found to work.
You can make your own igniter using the instructions on Loudhvx's site, and the rotor off a four cylinder timing advancer can be removed, flipped over, and pressed back on a 750 twin timing advancer, but I haven't found any other pick up that will work.
I scan eBay at least once a day searching for the electronic ignition parts to convert a 750 twin.
Post edited by: steell, at: 2007/04/27 08:53
The 440 and 82-83 750 twin ignition are the only ones I have found to work.
You can make your own igniter using the instructions on Loudhvx's site, and the rotor off a four cylinder timing advancer can be removed, flipped over, and pressed back on a 750 twin timing advancer, but I haven't found any other pick up that will work.
I scan eBay at least once a day searching for the electronic ignition parts to convert a 750 twin.
Post edited by: steell, at: 2007/04/27 08:53
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 06:57
A pickup device from a 4-cyl (early 1980's type) will work, but you'd probably have to modify or make your own timing plate to mount the pickup to the motor.
Like Steell said, you can use the rotor from a 4-cyl if you flip it over. (Because the twins run the crank in the opposite direction.)
here's the module, (you only need one module for a twin).
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/GPZgmHEImod.html
Post edited by: loudhvx, at: 2007/04/27 10:17
Like Steell said, you can use the rotor from a 4-cyl if you flip it over. (Because the twins run the crank in the opposite direction.)
here's the module, (you only need one module for a twin).
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/GPZgmHEImod.html
Post edited by: loudhvx, at: 2007/04/27 10:17
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Kz550 valve train warning.
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 10:08
I can mirror your site if you're regularly bumping the bandwidth limit.
Also...do you have a list of GM models using the HEI module? I'll be making a trip to the u-pull-it auto parts yard soon..
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Post edited by: Duck, at: 2007/04/27 13:23
Also...do you have a list of GM models using the HEI module? I'll be making a trip to the u-pull-it auto parts yard soon..
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 10:24
Thanks Duck! It's usually not a problem. I'm not sure why the limit was exceeded this time. The problem is that I often update the files on it to keep it current.
Oh and I nearly forgot. I finished the HEI mod for CB 750/900/1100. When the site comes back up, check this to see if it'll work on the CX. If the pickups are the same, it should work, I think.
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/CBheiMod.html
or to use GM coils
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/CBheiModCavCoil.html
Post edited by: loudhvx, at: 2007/04/27 13:25
Oh and I nearly forgot. I finished the HEI mod for CB 750/900/1100. When the site comes back up, check this to see if it'll work on the CX. If the pickups are the same, it should work, I think.
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/CBheiMod.html
or to use GM coils
www.geocities.com/loudgpz/CBheiModCavCoil.html
Post edited by: loudhvx, at: 2007/04/27 13:25
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Kz550 valve train warning.
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 10:37
Cool...
Mirror is automatic and catches updates.
I'll do it and send you the link.
You were probably replying a I was modifying my post to ask which models of GM use that nifty module...
I'm heading over to the u-pull-it auto parts yard and wanted to grab half a doz or so to play with.
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Mirror is automatic and catches updates.
I'll do it and send you the link.
You were probably replying a I was modifying my post to ask which models of GM use that nifty module...
I'm heading over to the u-pull-it auto parts yard and wanted to grab half a doz or so to play with.
-Duck
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 10:42
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
Other links.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 10:43
I only work with the Wells models, so I can't say for sure what an actual GM version would do. I'd expect it to be the same, but you never know til you try it.
1981 KZ550 D1 gpz.
Kz550 valve train warning.
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Kz550 valve train warning.
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
27 Apr 2007 15:15
Thanks. I'm going to be at the auto salvage yard anyway. Have to get some headlight housings for the Wind-star mini-van. Hit a few wino's and the darn plastic mounting tabs break off. Should be able to get half a dozen of the GM ignition modules for $3-$6 total. Cheap experiment!
Picking up a classic Gravely Convertible tractor tomorrow. Maybe find someone to swap me a T100 or another KZ for it. Can't have too many ratty bikes.
Picking up a classic Gravely Convertible tractor tomorrow. Maybe find someone to swap me a T100 or another KZ for it. Can't have too many ratty bikes.
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Re: Electronic Ignition Conversion Kit 1976 KZ750-B1
03 May 2007 15:46
Duck wrote:
here is the mirrored site.
www.atl.org/loudgpz/
it automatically updates.
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Cool...
Mirror is automatic and catches updates.
I'll do it and send you the link.
You were probably replying a I was modifying my post to ask which models of GM use that nifty module...
I'm heading over to the u-pull-it auto parts yard and wanted to grab half a doz or so to play with.
-Duck
here is the mirrored site.
www.atl.org/loudgpz/
it automatically updates.
-Duck
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