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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 12:29
OK. Those screws that have the locknuts on them that are under the carb caps are not air screws. They are in fact the individual throttle adjusting screws, and yes they are the screws you use to synchronize the carbs, They do not change the air/fuel mixture at all. What they do is raise or lower the slide inside the carb. By raising or lowering the slides one can adjust the amount of vacuum inside the carb when the engine is idling. When the vacuum in all 4 carbs is the same at idle, the carbs are synchronized.
For future reference, assuming that photo shows your carbs, they are not the air screw type; they are the pilot screw type.
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For future reference, assuming that photo shows your carbs, they are not the air screw type; they are the pilot screw type.
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17 Jul 2015 12:59650ed wrote: OK. Those screws that have the locknuts on them that are under the carb caps are not air screws. They are in fact the individual throttle adjusting screws, and yes they are the screws you use to synchronize the carbs, They do not change the air/fuel mixture at all. What they do is raise or lower the slide inside the carb. By raising or lowering the slides one.can adjust the amount of vacuum inside the carb when the engine is idling. When the vacuum in all 4 carbs is the same at idle, the carbs are synchronized.
For future reference, assuming that photo shows your carbs, they are not the air screw type; they are the pilot screw type.
Ed
Yeah those are the carbs on my bike
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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 13:03
So then how do I go about adjusting the bottom screws on the bowls?
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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 13:10
If you mean the pilot screws which each carb should have on the bottom near the engine side of the bowl, you should use the Kawasaki Service Manual for instructions. Those pilot screws control the fuel in the air/fuel mix and should not be fiddled with unless you have the specific instructions in the manual. Ed
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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 13:11
They adjust the amount of fuel that goes into the engine at idle. They're more responsive than the air bleed screws. You can tell by the RPM's. Adjust them to max RPM's and move on. If you adjust anything else, you readjust them to fine tune the carbs. You need to sync the carbs, then fine tune using them.
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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 13:13
Sorry Ed, I stepped on your post.
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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 13:47 - 17 Jul 2015 17:11
In the factory manual it says to first remove the pilot screw limiter then turn in the pilot screw gently in till it seats and then back it out 1 and 1/8th turn .....then push the limiter back on with the ridge ( tab) facing forward.
The Clymer says the same thing except does not say to remove the limiter first but does say after adj of 1 and a 1/8th turns replace the limiter with the tab facing foward.
Like Ed says they probably should be left alone unless someone has played with em or you or someone else removed them for carb cleaning.
Both my manuals are for the 1978 KZ650B.
The Clymer says the same thing except does not say to remove the limiter first but does say after adj of 1 and a 1/8th turns replace the limiter with the tab facing foward.
Like Ed says they probably should be left alone unless someone has played with em or you or someone else removed them for carb cleaning.
Both my manuals are for the 1978 KZ650B.
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1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
700cc Wiseco kit 10 to 1.
1980 KZ750 cam, ape springs, stock clutch/ Barnett springs.
Vance and Hines Header w/ comp baffle and Ape pods, Dyna S and green coils, copper wires.
29MM smooth bores W/ 17.5 pilots, 0-6s and 117.5 main
16/42 gearing X ring chain and alum rear JT sprocket.
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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 16:40
blink - i have the 76 and 81 FSM - when synced the readings should be less than 2 cm hg between any carb - so actual readings are not important - and normal vacumn readings appear to be different for models.
19 -24 cmhg on the 76 and 14 cmhg min on the 81 but forget that and work on getting them as equal as possible.
Sync screw out decreases vacumn and in increases .
The air mixture screw settings are different for models also.
3/4 out for the 76 - thought it was 1 7/8 out for the 78 but could have read it wrong. Has your clymer got that setting ?
When you do find the exact setting for your model and if you have mucked with them i would take them out carefully and check em out - make sure all parts are there - reinstall - reseat them Gently just till you feel them stop - dont force them - go easy.
Then take notice where they seat - i use a marker pen when seated so it gives a good idea - back out slowly to your model spec and then sync.
19 -24 cmhg on the 76 and 14 cmhg min on the 81 but forget that and work on getting them as equal as possible.
Sync screw out decreases vacumn and in increases .
The air mixture screw settings are different for models also.
3/4 out for the 76 - thought it was 1 7/8 out for the 78 but could have read it wrong. Has your clymer got that setting ?
When you do find the exact setting for your model and if you have mucked with them i would take them out carefully and check em out - make sure all parts are there - reinstall - reseat them Gently just till you feel them stop - dont force them - go easy.
Then take notice where they seat - i use a marker pen when seated so it gives a good idea - back out slowly to your model spec and then sync.
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17 Jul 2015 17:35KZB2 650 wrote: In the factory manual it says to first remove the pilot screw limiter then turn in the pilot screw gently in till it seats and then back it out 1 and 1/8th turn .....then push the limiter back on with the ridge ( tab) facing forward.
The Clymer says the same thing except does not say to remove the limiter first but does say after adj of 1 and a 1/8th turns replace the limiter with the tab facing foward.
Like Ed says they probably should be left alone unless someone has played with em or you or someone else removed them for carb cleaning.
Both my manuals are for the 1978 KZ650B.
What's a pilot screw limiter? Not familiar
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Re: carb tune help/procedure
17 Jul 2015 17:43
That's a plastic POS they put on there to keep the owners from adjusting the leanness out.
Some have a cap pressed in so you can't get to it. We do anyway. :evil:
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17 Jul 2015 19:37swest wrote: That's a plastic POS they put on there to keep the owners from adjusting the leanness out.Some have a cap pressed in so you can't get to it. We do anyway. :evil:
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Put on where?
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