Took top off
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Re: Took top off
26 Oct 2025 00:40
Thank you that's exactly what I'll do I was thinking changing them all
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30 Oct 2025 08:42
Okay I don't mind spending it all the money on her that's not a problem but I do have one problem like I said with the broken ring there is a piece missing I cannot find it I took the bottom cover off and I don't know what to say I can't find it
so this is my plan I already checked with an endoscope as much as I could I can't find no piece of ring my next option is going to be put the oil pan back on I'm going to blow it with a long neck air hose then I'm also going to put a I got a quart of oil in a Lucas container which I am going to pour everywhere into joints and everything see if I could flush it out if it is in there short of that any suggestions it's about a 1-in piece missing
so this is my plan I already checked with an endoscope as much as I could I can't find no piece of ring my next option is going to be put the oil pan back on I'm going to blow it with a long neck air hose then I'm also going to put a I got a quart of oil in a Lucas container which I am going to pour everywhere into joints and everything see if I could flush it out if it is in there short of that any suggestions it's about a 1-in piece missing
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Re: Took top off
30 Oct 2025 09:44
1982 KZ1100-A2 bike powered by a 1984 ZN/ZX1100 motor since late 2024
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Re: Took top off
30 Oct 2025 09:52
My local hardware store had some of the pen-style extending magnets also.
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Re: Took top off
30 Oct 2025 10:03
I got them I did that too it didn't pick up nothing and it's a nice heavy magnet so and in the oil didn't pick up any metal so I hate to put it back together and that sucker is in there hidden
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Re: Took top off
30 Oct 2025 12:52
Just a wild guess here, but the only place I can think that the broken ring can go is out the exhaust. It may have broken up in the combustion chamber and gone out that way. You might check your exhaust pipe to see if there is anything in it.
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30 Oct 2025 13:00
I'll definitely do that thank you but there ain't a scratch in that cylinder wall at all so I'm really doubtful but I'll check I have to clean the pipes anyway that was my next step I wanted to get them redone I'm not sure if they're black chrome or what the process was on them but that's another subject for another topic thank you
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Re: Took top off
30 Oct 2025 13:41
I really do not understand how a piece of ring could escape unless a big chunk of piston broke off. The piston to cylinder clearance is really small, especially when the engine is at operating temperature, and at no time does the piston move up far enough in the bore to expose the rings, unless it exiting the engine through the head.
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Re: Took top off
30 Oct 2025 17:53 - 30 Oct 2025 17:57
I'm gonna guess the piece of ring may have broken off when you were removing the cylinders (since you say there aren't scratches in the bores). If you haven't moved the engine it should be directly below the pistons, maybe in the oil pan. If it made it past the crank to the oil pan and you don't find it, you might be ok. But I would really fish around with the magnet, in case it is sitting on the crank or cam chain sprocket of the crankshaft.
Don't mean to scare you but if you don't find it you'll have to cross your fingers at start up when you're done.
Don't mean to scare you but if you don't find it you'll have to cross your fingers at start up when you're done.
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Andrews 1X Cams
Delkevic 4 into 1
Superbike bars
530 conversion
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Re: Took top off
30 Oct 2025 19:31 - 30 Oct 2025 20:02
Yes when I took the barrel off I noticed a piece of ring in my hand and the other piece was on the other side of the piston but when I put them together I noticed it was short about an inch I'm going to keep looking I hate to take it all the way apart but I got to find it as far as the other gentleman saying it might be bound up in the cam chain that's a good possibility because I did move to crank a little bit and it kind of bound up I thought it was the chain it may be in there now tomorrow I'll be checking it out thank you guys I'll keep you updated
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Re: Took top off
31 Oct 2025 01:29
I agree with Scotty, if the bore isn't damaged the ring could only escape once the piston was out of the cylinder - which cylinder is it and how clean is the floor of your shop ?
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Re: Took top off
31 Oct 2025 04:21
I plan on doing that too this morning I'm also going to take I have one of those Walmart containers that contain the oil so when I did an oil drain and took the pan off it could have went in there through the pan when I dump the oil so I'm going to check that too I'm going to filter it I'm going to check everything I'm going to find that sucker because I'm not going to close it up with it missing
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