Haynes vs Clymer vs Kawasaki genuine workshop manuals

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Haynes vs Clymer vs Kawasaki genuine workshop manuals

01 Aug 2020 00:04

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From my experience with cars the Haynes manuals are watered down maintenance manual, are the Clymer and Kawasaki genuine much more detailed?

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Re: Haynes vs Clymer vs Kawasaki genuine workshop manuals

01 Aug 2020 04:42

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Use a real Kawasaki factory manual.
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01 Aug 2020 05:18 - 01 Aug 2020 05:19

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Street Fighter LTD wrote: Use a real Kawasaki factory manual.
Dave

Agreed! A Kaw factory manual is well worth the cost.

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In a former life - KZ-based dragbike - CrMo car tire chassis, 1395cc, Hahn Racecraft turbo system, VP C16, Orient Express 3-spd auto, 7.80's @ 165-170.

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01 Aug 2020 06:38

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The aftermarket manuals are certainly better than no manual, but they sometimes lack the model specific and running changes information included in the factory manual.

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01 Aug 2020 08:03 - 01 Aug 2020 08:05

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Use the factory manual to fix your bike.

Use the Haynes manual ........

to wipe your ass.

Z1000J2 somewhat modified!

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01 Aug 2020 08:18

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Warren, I am shocked by that blatant display of crudeness! I thought all English folks were much more refined with a better grasp of the Queens English. However, I have all three of the mentioned manuals. The FSM is the go to book with Clymer being the second. The Haynes manual is in fact poopie-paper. The pictures in the one I have are next to worthless and looks like someone took them with a Brownie Box Camera without a flash.
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Re: Haynes vs Clymer vs Kawasaki genuine workshop manuals

01 Aug 2020 08:26

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It's not just that the factory manuals are better. The Kawasaki service manuals from the 70s and 80s are the best factory manuals I've ever seen for any vehicle I've owned. Most manuals have diagrams, torque specs, some assembly steps, and some troubleshooting guides. But the KZ manuals have a detailed theory of operation section that provides a level of detail you never find in modern manuals.

They are really good, and worth every penny.

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01 Aug 2020 08:52

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Clymers and Haynes manuals are great to keep next to your fireplace to use for kindling. Beyond that they offer minimal value.

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Re: Haynes vs Clymer vs Kawasaki genuine workshop manuals

01 Aug 2020 10:11 - 01 Aug 2020 10:45

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Rick H. wrote: Warren, I am shocked by that blatant display of crudeness! I thought all English folks were much more refined with a better grasp of the Queens English. However, I have all three of the mentioned manuals. The FSM is the go to book with Clymer being the second. The Haynes manual is in fact poopie-paper. The pictures in the one I have are next to worthless and looks like someone took them with a Brownie Box Camera without a flash.
Rick H.

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Yes, sorry, I meant to say arse. For the most part we are, however, when it comes to Haynes manuals they bring out the worst in everyone regardless of nationality. Now I'm off for afternoon tea with cucumber sandwiches (no crusts) and fondant fancies.

Z1000J2 somewhat modified!

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01 Aug 2020 11:08 - 01 Aug 2020 11:11

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Warren3200gt wrote:

Rick H. wrote: Warren, I am shocked by that blatant display of crudeness! I thought all English folks were much more refined with a better grasp of the Queens English. However, I have all three of the mentioned manuals. The FSM is the go to book with Clymer being the second. The Haynes manual is in fact poopie-paper. The pictures in the one I have are next to worthless and looks like someone took them with a Brownie Box Camera without a flash.
Rick H.

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Yes, sorry, I meant to say arse. For the most part we are, however, when it comes to Haynes manuals they bring out the worst in everyone regardless of nationality. Now I'm off for afternoon tea with cucumber sandwiches (no crusts) and fondant fancies.

Such grasp of contemporary verbal expression Warren, turn green Sir laurence olivier :laugh: : as long as you hold your little pinky out whilst drinking tea it's ok,
they have no idea of your tourette problem.

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Re: Haynes vs Clymer vs Kawasaki genuine workshop manuals

01 Aug 2020 11:32

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The Kawasaki service manual is my bible. Sometimes they don't show enough detail but if I'm pondering how things go together I can always go to the parts fiches. The Clymer manual is useful as a second source. I don't have Haynes so can't speak to it. I also have a complete set of Kawasaki maintenance training manuals for a deeper understanding of how things work. They are much the same as the videos.

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01 Aug 2020 12:12

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kevski wrote: Such grasp of contemporary verbal expression Warren, turn green Sir laurence olivier :laugh: : as long as you hold your little pinky out whilst drinking tea it's ok,
they have no idea of your tourette problem.

Feck me, What fecking tourettes fecking problem is that Kev? :silly:

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