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Re: Phoenix Fighter
29 Oct 2015 03:37
Maybe we can open up the west coast and points East for the relay.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 07:07swest wrote: Maybe we can open up the west coast and points East for the relay.
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I think we need to put together a SW rally like they did in CO. When the bike is running I will start a post.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 08:26
My preference would be CO but I'd be up for anything in the four corner states.
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01 Nov 2015 09:50missionkz wrote: My preference would be CO but I'd be up for anything in the four corner states.
Good to know. I don't want to clutter up my project thread discussing it here. I will start a rally thread tonight. As long as it's within an 8-10 hour ride from Phoenix, AZ I'm down. Temp and possible weather needs to be considered.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 10:18
Need feed back on two items.
1. Scored a set of 110° Webcams and am wondering if I should install them now or wait. Currently I have Andrews 1X cams installed. 1075 Wiseco 10:1.25 pistons, Heavier duty springs that will handle performance cams. Mikuni RS36 flat slide carbs.
Adrews 1X cam Specs
110° Webcam Specs
Second, due to my choice of location for the oil cooler I may need to add a fan this summer. I would like to control it with a thermostat switch. The ones I am finding turn on @ 180° and off @ 165°. That seems a bit cold for the bike, great for a cage. What temperature range should I be looking for?
1. Scored a set of 110° Webcams and am wondering if I should install them now or wait. Currently I have Andrews 1X cams installed. 1075 Wiseco 10:1.25 pistons, Heavier duty springs that will handle performance cams. Mikuni RS36 flat slide carbs.
Adrews 1X cam Specs
110° Webcam Specs
Second, due to my choice of location for the oil cooler I may need to add a fan this summer. I would like to control it with a thermostat switch. The ones I am finding turn on @ 180° and off @ 165°. That seems a bit cold for the bike, great for a cage. What temperature range should I be looking for?
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 10:19
Damn it I keep forgetting PDFs won't post here.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 11:58
Let me try this again,
Need feed back on two items.
1. Scored a set of 110° Web camshafts and am wondering if I should install them now or wait. Currently I have Andrews 1X cams installed. 1075 Wiseco 10:1.25 pistons, Heavier duty springs that will handle performance cams. Mikuni RS36 flat slide carbs.
As we all know cam bearings are expensive. If I have to replace bearings to do a swap after the engine has run, I would rather do it now. It also appears that the Web Cams are not drop ins. Will I need adjustable timing gears?
Adrews 1X cam Specs
Lift Duration Timing TDC CL Angle Lash
In .344 260 24/36 .104 106 .004
Ex .344 260 56/24 .104 106 .004
110° Web cam Specs
In. .395 256 22/56 106 .00 @ 0.050 Inches Of Valve Lift
Ex. .395 256 54/20 108 .00 @ 0.050 Inches Of Valve Lift
Second, due to my choice of location for the oil cooler I may need to add a fan this summer. I would like to control it with a thermostat switch. The ones I am finding turn on @ 180° and off @ 165°. That seems a bit cold for the bike, great for a cage. What temperature range should I be looking for?
Need feed back on two items.
1. Scored a set of 110° Web camshafts and am wondering if I should install them now or wait. Currently I have Andrews 1X cams installed. 1075 Wiseco 10:1.25 pistons, Heavier duty springs that will handle performance cams. Mikuni RS36 flat slide carbs.
As we all know cam bearings are expensive. If I have to replace bearings to do a swap after the engine has run, I would rather do it now. It also appears that the Web Cams are not drop ins. Will I need adjustable timing gears?
Adrews 1X cam Specs
Lift Duration Timing TDC CL Angle Lash
In .344 260 24/36 .104 106 .004
Ex .344 260 56/24 .104 106 .004
110° Web cam Specs
In. .395 256 22/56 106 .00 @ 0.050 Inches Of Valve Lift
Ex. .395 256 54/20 108 .00 @ 0.050 Inches Of Valve Lift
Second, due to my choice of location for the oil cooler I may need to add a fan this summer. I would like to control it with a thermostat switch. The ones I am finding turn on @ 180° and off @ 165°. That seems a bit cold for the bike, great for a cage. What temperature range should I be looking for?
Jon
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 12:09
I think I'd wait on the cams Jon. You could go to APE to compare lift and to see if you have to make room for them. I'll e-mail my PDF version of the Andrews specs. They may or may not be "drop in". I don't think you'll need a fan. It should dissipate enough heat as is.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 12:14
110's are supposed to be drop ins but I've seen 2 such setups now with spit shims. 1 was a properly done setup, other, can't say with certainty but the 1st one, made me decide it's not worth the gamble, go shim under for peace of mind. it's more difficult to do a maintenance job on the lash but don't let that sway you away from them. good street cams
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 12:22
Good point.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 12:28les holt wrote: 110's are supposed to be drop ins but I've seen 2 such setups now with spit shims. 1 was a properly done setup, other, can't say with certainty but the 1st one, made me decide it's not worth the gamble, go shim under for peace of mind. it's more difficult to do a maintenance job on the lash but don't let that sway you away from them. good street cams
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Wholly ghosts! I have not seen you forever Les. So Shim under? How am I supposed to convert it? Is there a kit? I have heard of this before but have never found the detailed bits to get it done.
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Re: Phoenix Fighter
01 Nov 2015 12:41
650 cups and retainers will work. APE sells a kit. I would wait and ride the piss out of it first. :woohoo:
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