BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
17 Nov 2011 03:06
Guy over at z1 says they dont carry them but might make something else work.... How do you check the timing??? This manual that I have sucks big time erwhen it comes down to specific procedures. Looks like the motor is coming or?? Even if it's out of timing wntt it stil pop and show signs of the fuel and spark combo?? Does produce heavy white smoke when I stay on the button
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17 Nov 2011 09:51
Not necessarily.
Bad timing could produce your symptoms. If no one has messed with the timing maybe the points are bad (heavily corroded or even fused).
Have you checked them ?
If someone installed an electronic ignition, maybe it was never set right. Check it out.
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If the carb. boots are bad, wouldn't that disturb the air / fuel mixture enough to cause problems as well? Even if the motor was running otherwise perfect, an air leak (depending on how bad) could cause starting issues.
How bad are they?
Pics are always a good idea. Gives everyone "eyes" on your situation.
Bad timing could produce your symptoms. If no one has messed with the timing maybe the points are bad (heavily corroded or even fused).
Have you checked them ?
If someone installed an electronic ignition, maybe it was never set right. Check it out.
BUT
If the carb. boots are bad, wouldn't that disturb the air / fuel mixture enough to cause problems as well? Even if the motor was running otherwise perfect, an air leak (depending on how bad) could cause starting issues.
How bad are they?
Pics are always a good idea. Gives everyone "eyes" on your situation.
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
17 Nov 2011 12:14
Points and spark have been checked and all is good. Forgot to mention that I flooded both cylinders with wd40 to unlock the motor but it was the stator cover that was jammed!! Could that oil be killing my engine?? Used the same plugs and coil to fire my other engine so they good. How would I clean the cylinders out?? Lined the cam notche up from a you tube video and it was right on with all the other marks the guy pointed out....... Anybody ever replace the carb holders on a 400 with new ones? Any models cross over??
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
17 Nov 2011 16:30 - 17 Nov 2011 16:31
Helpful links:
www.armbell.com/forum/index.php?c=6&sid=...571a51a&mforum=kz400
www.kz400.com/
Lots of good info on kawasaki.com, including parts diagrams, part numbers, models sharing same part, availability, etc. Here's a link for help with navigating the site and finding information.
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...w&catid=13&id=376734
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www.armbell.com/forum/index.php?c=6&sid=...571a51a&mforum=kz400
www.kz400.com/
Lots of good info on kawasaki.com, including parts diagrams, part numbers, models sharing same part, availability, etc. Here's a link for help with navigating the site and finding information.
kzrider.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&...w&catid=13&id=376734
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
17 Nov 2011 17:32
If you are sure you have good spark, have you tried spraying some starting fluid in the carb bores? If it works, this will tell you if your problem is carb related. Heck, my nephew did it with no carburetors installed and it fired up for a second or two. Good luck.
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
17 Nov 2011 21:48
Latest update is I got the damn thing to run 4 about 20 sec. It is those damn carb holders. Scavenged thru all of Union cycle to come up empty handed..... Now the crew over at Land's is looking into the whole kz1000 thing 4 me. Praying 4 good news tomorrow. Now back to the bobber.... how in hell can I hide all that electrical system?? I wasn't thinking about that bulk of wires during my tear down but I want to keep all the lights.... Wat am i 2 do??
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
18 Nov 2011 01:18
I say don't worry too much about it.
Do the best you can, run it neat, maybe hide some inside the tubes if you can do it without compromising strength, and be done with it.
In the end, you'll see allot of ways to do things better next time.
I promise you'll forget about some of the little stuff once you're ridin it.
Do the best you can, run it neat, maybe hide some inside the tubes if you can do it without compromising strength, and be done with it.
In the end, you'll see allot of ways to do things better next time.
I promise you'll forget about some of the little stuff once you're ridin it.
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
18 Nov 2011 11:56
Hey man, quit playing with your bike! Your dog needs a drink. His tongue is hanging out.
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
18 Nov 2011 13:35
Read the post dates dude that was during a record heat wave in texas my tongue was probably hanging when I took that pic!!......... What would be the largest size hole ti drill in the frame to run the wires thru???
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18 Nov 2011 15:35
Your gonna have to make that call, just be on the conservative side.
I don't know how heavy the tube wall is.
I built a harley with custom frame that had about 1/8" for wall thickness, and I didn't want to drill more than 3/8" hole for wires. 1/2" I felt was pushing it/
You don't want to create a weak spot where it could crack, so watch where you drill too.
I guess if there was a concern you could beef up the area by welding a collar around the hole. A thick washer might do.
But really, neat wires zip tied to the frame will be fine.
Does that engine need an external oil tank? If not, you could make a fake one to hide electronics.
I don't know how heavy the tube wall is.
I built a harley with custom frame that had about 1/8" for wall thickness, and I didn't want to drill more than 3/8" hole for wires. 1/2" I felt was pushing it/
You don't want to create a weak spot where it could crack, so watch where you drill too.
I guess if there was a concern you could beef up the area by welding a collar around the hole. A thick washer might do.
But really, neat wires zip tied to the frame will be fine.
Does that engine need an external oil tank? If not, you could make a fake one to hide electronics.
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Re: BACKYARD BOBBER!!!!
18 Nov 2011 17:34uglee wrote: Read the post dates dude that was during a record heat wave in texas my tongue was probably hanging when I took that pic!!......... What would be the largest size hole ti drill in the frame to run the wires thru???
I don't think you would see much, if any wires if you run them up under that gas tank and seat. I have heard a lot of people say that drilling the frame is a bad idea, so definitely be careful doing it that way,
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