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Front left frame welded by previous owner 22 Jul 2023 15:46 #887499

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I purchased this KZ900 4A in1980 form a warehouse where the bike was sold to the warehouse owner. I bought it from him for a few hundred $. It wasn't running and obvious it had sustained
front end damage. I fixed it and drove it periodically over the last 43 years. I'm looking to sell it and wondered if there are motorcycle frame experts that could evaluate the welds and alignment of the frame to see if they are satisfactory. I have had no problems and the weld remains intact over the decades. It is quite obvious and I would disclose it anyway to a potential buyer. Or should I not bother and list it at a reduced price and see if anyone wants it with the welded frame. See attached pix.
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Front left frame welded by previous owner 22 Jul 2023 17:47 #887500

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Pics would help 
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Front left frame welded by previous owner 22 Jul 2023 18:14 #887501

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There are specialist welding engineers out there.  If you've ridden the bike for 43 yrs and are still alive I suspect the frame is fine.  Unless you know of a problem you can always sell it as is.  

For interest sake, I bought a Z1B with a serious frame crack on the left downtube.  I had it repaired and eventually sold the bike.  If done properly the tube won't show any weld and it will be as good as new.
I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.
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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 22 Jul 2023 19:27 #887503

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purchased this KZ900 4A in1980 form a warehouse where the bike was sold to the warehouse owner. I bought it from him for a few hundred $. It wasn't running and obvious it had sustained
front end damage. I fixed it and drove it periodically over the last 43 years. I'm looking to sell it and wondered if there are motorcycle frame experts that could evaluate the welds and alignment of the frame to see if they are satisfactory. I have had no problems and the weld remains intact over the decades. It is quite obvious and I would disclose it anyway to a potential buyer. Or should I not bother and list it at a reduced price and see if anyone wants it with the welded frame. See attached pix.
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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 23 Jul 2023 06:51 #887509

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I merged your threads into one  AND  fixed your pictures in your last post to be full size .
Next time when posting pictures  finish the install by clicking  insert all , then submit and pictures will be full size .
I also deleted a third thread which you posted as it was just a duplicate  of the first one .
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 My 2 cts  is sell it as is so the next owner will see what has happened , and what needs to be done to fix it 
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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 23 Jul 2023 06:52 #887510

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Honesty is the best policey.
It is out in the open and should be obvious to any would be buyer.
That being said, the weld of that quality even if it holds will affect the value of the bike.


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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 23 Jul 2023 06:56 #887511

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And taking a second look it seems to have been stick welded with small rod, 3/32 or 1/16.
Also the tubes are not alined.


 
2002 ZRX1200R
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79 KZ1000st daily ride
79 KZ1000mk2 prodject
78 KZ650sr
78 KZ650b
81 KZ750e
80 KZ750ltd
77 KZ400/440 cafe project
76 KZ400/440 Fuel Injected

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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 23 Jul 2023 07:06 #887512

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And taking a second look it seems to have been stick welded with small rod, 3/32 or 1/16.
Also the tubes are not alined.



 
I didn't want to pick on  a new member seeking  advise here , But If  no one in his area can do a proper job , then I would sell it as is .
The work needs to go back to square one  and  be  done again . 

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Front left frame welded by previous owner 23 Jul 2023 09:00 #887513

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Just be honest with any potential buyer and give them the same history and information you gave us.

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welded Z1 crank
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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 23 Jul 2023 10:24 #887514

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Thanks for the input. You are absolutely right about the misalignment of the front tube. I would actually like to spruce up the bike a bit and keep it, but the wife suggested otherwise since we have quite a few toys (I call them tools). I'll call around to some custom bike shops and see what I can find. What kind of price range are these bikes bring (ones without frame damage and in average cosmetic but runs and shifts good)?
Thanks again to all for your input.
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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 23 Jul 2023 11:20 #887516

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How about pictures of the whole bike and a list of accesories and work done to it  
 Then we can help with a value
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76 KZ 900 frame repair or replace or sell as is 23 Jul 2023 15:06 #887518

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Carbs and tank are off the bike for a carb rebuild. Will post a picture once all put back together The bike is stock 76 KZ900.
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