if i had a $ for everytime ive seen bikebuilders in omaha try and sell those thin wheels and race only parts to some guy with a streetbike,id probably make back a big chunk of the money i lost blew on race only stuff when i was young and dumb!bwaha:whistle: i like the d.i.d rims better anyway,see ya in the spring at paradise!goodluck,happy wrenching!