LED Tail Light Swap
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
10 Feb 2016 08:39 - 10 Feb 2016 08:40
Try connecting a normal bulb of the correct wattage to the brake light wire and see if the problems goes away, perhaps the control unit is playing up. Also make sure you have a really good ground to all the rear lamp connections. If the resistance of the LED + resistor is the same as the bulb that fix should work, but it might be it's not exact and falls outside the range the unit detects - do you have a meter to check the resistance of both setups i.e an actual bulb and the LED and a resistor. How many ohms are the resistors?
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
10 Feb 2016 08:53
Yes I have an ohm meter... I will just run it in line with the power circuit with the old and new bulb and see how close I am. Does anyone know for certain which circuit the warning light is on? (Tail or brake) or would it be on both?
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
11 Feb 2016 08:39
This should be close for the 81 (80 KZ750H1)
This is what I used (about $10 at Auto Zone) instead of resistors
Good luck,
Jim
This is what I used (about $10 at Auto Zone) instead of resistors
Good luck,
Jim
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
11 Feb 2016 10:38
Jim:
You wired that flasher module into the brake circuit? I have an LED flasher wired into the turn signals when I did the front lights last year so the rear turns work fine... Its the brake/tail light indicaror that's giving me an issue.
You wired that flasher module into the brake circuit? I have an LED flasher wired into the turn signals when I did the front lights last year so the rear turns work fine... Its the brake/tail light indicaror that's giving me an issue.
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
11 Feb 2016 13:24
Rave71, No. Sorry for the confusion (too quick post scan).
Unplug the Brake Light Failure Indicator switch (lower right, 3 wires on diagram.
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Unplug the Brake Light Failure Indicator switch (lower right, 3 wires on diagram.
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
11 Feb 2016 13:51
Do you know off the top of your head if that will deactivate the low fuel warning as well? I mean I always trip my tanks of fuel but it's always nice to have in case I'm not paying attention. I have had to flip to reserve more than once haha
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
12 Feb 2016 08:53
No, the fuel level and brake lamp outage switches ground (activate light) separately.
In the wire diagram at the bulb in the speedometer (lower bulb in diagram) the brown wire is the + voltage (hot) and the green/white wire goes to both the fuel level and brake light failure switches.
When each switch activates, it grounds the circuit activating the light. If only the brake light failure switch is removed the fuel level switch will still ground and activate the light.
Jim.
In the wire diagram at the bulb in the speedometer (lower bulb in diagram) the brown wire is the + voltage (hot) and the green/white wire goes to both the fuel level and brake light failure switches.
When each switch activates, it grounds the circuit activating the light. If only the brake light failure switch is removed the fuel level switch will still ground and activate the light.
Jim.
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75 KZ400 Wife's old bike sold
81 KZ440 A2 LTD Wife's new bike
84 Honda 450 Rebel Wife's newest bike
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
12 Feb 2016 13:04
If you are just going to do away with it then you could just remove the bulb in the instrument cluster.
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
15 Feb 2016 10:53
Yes, but that will eliminate the warning for both Low Fuel and Brake lamp Failure.
Both functions use the same bulb for their warning.
Jim
Both functions use the same bulb for their warning.
Jim
80 KZ750 H1 - the Kaw calf
79 KZ750 Twin - Miss Nov 2008 KZR calander
79 KZ750 Twin parts bike
78 KZ650 C2 Parts Bike
75 KZ400 Wife's old bike sold
81 KZ440 A2 LTD Wife's new bike
84 Honda 450 Rebel Wife's newest bike
Jim
Quincy,IL
79 KZ750 Twin - Miss Nov 2008 KZR calander
79 KZ750 Twin parts bike
78 KZ650 C2 Parts Bike
75 KZ400 Wife's old bike sold
81 KZ440 A2 LTD Wife's new bike
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
19 Feb 2016 06:24
So I finally got around to working on the bike again last night, I haven't yet addressed the problem with the indicator light but I figured I'd keep reporting progress in case anyone else out there was finding this information helpful:
In total there will be five connections so I purchased a two and three prong connecter. Could not find a 5 prong.
Here I have re-installed my chopped up and painted rear fender and cut back the casing from the harness.
I added on the new bracket for the LED light with also will double as the plate holder.
From there I cut the harness back about 12 inches and removed the two extra ground wires (black with stripe) that were used with the previous signals. I put together and soldered the two plug switch and then I called it a night. I will take some pictures of the wiring and finished product once I get back at it.
In total there will be five connections so I purchased a two and three prong connecter. Could not find a 5 prong.
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Here I have re-installed my chopped up and painted rear fender and cut back the casing from the harness.
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I added on the new bracket for the LED light with also will double as the plate holder.
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From there I cut the harness back about 12 inches and removed the two extra ground wires (black with stripe) that were used with the previous signals. I put together and soldered the two plug switch and then I called it a night. I will take some pictures of the wiring and finished product once I get back at it.
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
19 Feb 2016 08:10 - 19 Feb 2016 08:12Rainman wrote: Yes, but that will eliminate the warning for both Low Fuel and Brake lamp Failure.
Both functions use the same bulb for their warning.
Jim
Not so familiar with these "new fangled" bikes, I was visualizing a different instrument panel

It looks like you are doing some good work.
1978 KZ1000A2 Wiseco 1075 kit
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1973 Triumph Tiger TR7V
1968 BSA Victor Special 441
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1980 Suzuki SP400
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1980 Suzuki SP400
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Re: LED Tail Light Swap
19 Feb 2016 16:53 - 19 Feb 2016 18:04
So here it is, finished product minus dealing with the warning light... I'm going to address that next when I tear apart the front end to chase a gremlin in the starting circuit and upgrade the front light. Sorry if this seems excessive... Just a little how-to for any visual learners like me.
So here is the second connecter ready to be installed. This one contains the power/brake/ground wires.
First step is taking the grommet and sliding it over the prepped wire
Like so
Then slip on the prong, pinch it down with pliers and plop some solder on it
Slap the connectors in and you are all set
And here is the finished product
Once I get a smaller "cafe" seat installed I think it will look quite a bit better.
So here is the second connecter ready to be installed. This one contains the power/brake/ground wires.
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First step is taking the grommet and sliding it over the prepped wire
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Like so
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Then slip on the prong, pinch it down with pliers and plop some solder on it
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Slap the connectors in and you are all set
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And here is the finished product
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Once I get a smaller "cafe" seat installed I think it will look quite a bit better.
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