nightmare part 4

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nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 06:54
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i have tryed to jet the carbs down, and now my #2 &3 cly isn't hitting, i am at a loss have taken the carbs back off and haven't found anything ovbious as to why i have lost 2 and 3 realy don't know what to do next my bike has t.k. carbs so i don't know who makes them, have called some shops and one said my bike has mikuni, and the other said keihin.being that my carbs are off i would like to put bigger pilot jets in because of the fact the bike would pop when i let off the throttle. thanks in advance for everyones advice it is not wasted.
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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 06:57
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Lost 2 & 3 meaning?

Keep in mind, 2/3 are on the same coil, sure it's not electrical?
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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 06:59
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what do you mean by "not hitting" if they're not firing its electrical, u do know 2 and 3 fire off the same coil right???

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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 07:01
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im sorry for not being clear i am getting fire to the plugs just not running on them cly.
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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 07:02
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damn dude you type faster :angry:

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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 07:05
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did u mess with the timing plate any, 2 and 3 also fire off the same set of points, u could get fire but worky, if not take em carbs back off and go throuh em again, check passages, bench sync, etc,etc

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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 07:18
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"i am getting fire to the plugs " but correct ignition spark is the question....;)
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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 07:25
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i have my carbs off and being that my bike would pop as i let off the the throttel i figured id put some bigger pilot jets in. but i can't find any . my bike has ele ignition and i have never touched the timming plate but i may try this time . my main thing is i need to check the coil and plugs today.so it sounds like i have my work planed for today. thanks.
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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 07:31
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be meticulous, do ONE THING AT A TIME, make a list, AND DONT GET EXCITED good luck :woohoo:

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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 07:45 - 12 Mar 2011 07:46
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...bike would pop as i let off the the throttel i figured id put some bigger pilot jets in. but i can't find any ....

Often just a simple pilot circuit enrichment will eliminate popping on deceleration.

A different pilot jet is often unnecessary.

Simply use the pilot adjustment screws.

Each carb has its own pilot adjustment screw.

An air leak (intrusion of outside air into the air-fuel mixture being provided from the carb to the engine) will also cause popping on decel and also a racing idle.
One typical leak site (of several possibilities) is at the carb holder (loose clamp for example) or cracks in an old worn out carb holder.

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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 08:34
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Patton wrote:
Often just a simple pilot circuit enrichment will eliminate popping on deceleration.

A different pilot jet is often unnecessary.

Simply use the pilot adjustment screws.

Each carb has its own pilot adjustment screw.

An air leak (intrusion of outside air into the air-fuel mixture being provided from the carb to the engine) will also cause popping on decel and also a racing idle.
One typical leak site (of several possibilities) is at the carb holder (loose clamp for example) or cracks in an old worn out carb holder.

+1 Absolutely. Turn those mix screws, and turn up your idle. Check by misting some water on the pipes, to see if the 2-3 start running again. If they do, then your sync is probly terrible. If not, then you gots another issue...

Make sure fuel levels are all correct/the same, and make sure pilot passages on carbs are flowing fuel correcty by spraying cleaner through the pilot jet opening, and watching it spray in the bore.

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Re: nightmare part 4

12 Mar 2011 14:51
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you was right my whole problem was in the sync. i spent all day tinkering with the bike,and found that it was way out of sync. next good day i will put the gages on to make sure im on point.
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