1978 kz1000a renew and revenge project
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17 Oct 2025 12:26
Thanks Wookie, i was plum lazy and read thru it all! But some semblance of what i did say still stands, although feeble now, ha.
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17 Oct 2025 15:45 - 17 Oct 2025 19:02
Hi all — first off, thanks for the help and the knowledge here. I’m grateful for the experience this forum brings.I’ve tuned a lot of carbs (and done plenty of EFI builds), so I’m not expecting carburetors to behave like EFI. I’m using a single wideband to guide changes with a simple goal: a bike that starts, runs, and travels reliably. Power and efficiency are secondary. Ive tuned inline 4 motorcycle engines with carbs and oxygen sensors many times over a 15 year period. It wont be like efi but it will be as good as anything else. The point isnt to pursue perfection. The point is to run in it in the cold/warm/altiitude/fuel grades and find the best compromise or middle ground. But most of all I will be making changes based on the experiences ive already had and combining them with specifics I learn from you on the kz1000.
On jets: my mains are close to what’s been suggested. I’m currently experimenting with non-Mikuni jets. I don’t recommend that route for most people, and I only went there because I’m comfortable measuring/machining and accepting the risk. For anyone not wanting that risk, please follow the standard recommendations from the folks here.
On the choke plunger: I really appreciate the documented fix — totally agree it’s a common, under-diagnosed issue. Regarding “rubber rejuvenator,” I want to be clear: I’m not proposing it as a general solution. I’ve experimented with removing oxidized outer layers and re-plasticizing rubber (background in race-tire prep), and I’ve seen temporary improvements that are impressive (from full loose to full push). Longevity is unknown and likely limited; I’m treating it as an experiment on my own bike, not advice. For what it’s worth, I verified every circuit, including the choke, with a leak-down test before and after.
Big picture: I’m not trying to upend KZ best practices. I respect the established guidance here and wouldn’t tell others to do what I’m doing. Some of us enjoy pushing the edges and owning the consequences — that’s on me, not the forum. If my path earns an “I told you so,” that’s fair.Thanks again for the continued guidance.
By the way, has anyone used the BS series carbs? inexpensive, for oil cooled, and one of the best carbs ever.
On jets: my mains are close to what’s been suggested. I’m currently experimenting with non-Mikuni jets. I don’t recommend that route for most people, and I only went there because I’m comfortable measuring/machining and accepting the risk. For anyone not wanting that risk, please follow the standard recommendations from the folks here.
On the choke plunger: I really appreciate the documented fix — totally agree it’s a common, under-diagnosed issue. Regarding “rubber rejuvenator,” I want to be clear: I’m not proposing it as a general solution. I’ve experimented with removing oxidized outer layers and re-plasticizing rubber (background in race-tire prep), and I’ve seen temporary improvements that are impressive (from full loose to full push). Longevity is unknown and likely limited; I’m treating it as an experiment on my own bike, not advice. For what it’s worth, I verified every circuit, including the choke, with a leak-down test before and after.
Big picture: I’m not trying to upend KZ best practices. I respect the established guidance here and wouldn’t tell others to do what I’m doing. Some of us enjoy pushing the edges and owning the consequences — that’s on me, not the forum. If my path earns an “I told you so,” that’s fair.Thanks again for the continued guidance.
By the way, has anyone used the BS series carbs? inexpensive, for oil cooled, and one of the best carbs ever.
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20 Oct 2025 09:07I have run Mikuni BS34s on a variety of things from 650s and 750s to 1000s - All my experience on them has been with air cooled motors however I don't see that being a contributing factor to the carbs performance.Hi all — first off, thanks for the help and the knowledge here. I’m grateful for the experience this forum brings.I’ve tuned a lot of carbs (and done plenty of EFI builds), so I’m not expecting carburetors to behave like EFI. I’m using a single wideband to guide changes with a simple goal: a bike that starts, runs, and travels reliably. Power and efficiency are secondary. Ive tuned inline 4 motorcycle engines with carbs and oxygen sensors many times over a 15 year period. It wont be like efi but it will be as good as anything else. The point isnt to pursue perfection. The point is to run in it in the cold/warm/altiitude/fuel grades and find the best compromise or middle ground. But most of all I will be making changes based on the experiences ive already had and combining them with specifics I learn from you on the kz1000.
On jets: my mains are close to what’s been suggested. I’m currently experimenting with non-Mikuni jets. I don’t recommend that route for most people, and I only went there because I’m comfortable measuring/machining and accepting the risk. For anyone not wanting that risk, please follow the standard recommendations from the folks here.
On the choke plunger: I really appreciate the documented fix — totally agree it’s a common, under-diagnosed issue. Regarding “rubber rejuvenator,” I want to be clear: I’m not proposing it as a general solution. I’ve experimented with removing oxidized outer layers and re-plasticizing rubber (background in race-tire prep), and I’ve seen temporary improvements that are impressive (from full loose to full push). Longevity is unknown and likely limited; I’m treating it as an experiment on my own bike, not advice. For what it’s worth, I verified every circuit, including the choke, with a leak-down test before and after.
Big picture: I’m not trying to upend KZ best practices. I respect the established guidance here and wouldn’t tell others to do what I’m doing. Some of us enjoy pushing the edges and owning the consequences — that’s on me, not the forum. If my path earns an “I told you so,” that’s fair.Thanks again for the continued guidance.
By the way, has anyone used the BS series carbs? inexpensive, for oil cooled, and one of the best carbs ever.
Curious, What are your plans for performance to beat your uncle?
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20 Oct 2025 15:49
Those BS carbs were really good in the transitions from mid to wot. Really good at elevation too.
He has a stock 76 kz900 with 4/1 and pods. still running points and has 120 main jets. plus the last time he actually did more than start it was 10 years ago. I dont think it will be too much of a problem. My bike is the same except it’s a 1000, carbs will be dialed in (air correction jets too) and electronic ignition with hot coils. All new tires and bearings .
Is the 1000 faster than the 900 in a quarter mile?
He has a stock 76 kz900 with 4/1 and pods. still running points and has 120 main jets. plus the last time he actually did more than start it was 10 years ago. I dont think it will be too much of a problem. My bike is the same except it’s a 1000, carbs will be dialed in (air correction jets too) and electronic ignition with hot coils. All new tires and bearings .
Is the 1000 faster than the 900 in a quarter mile?
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20 Oct 2025 16:50Those BS carbs were really good in the transitions from mid to wot. Really good at elevation too.
He has a stock 76 kz900 with 4/1 and pods. still running points and has 120 main jets. plus the last time he actually did more than start it was 10 years ago. I dont think it will be too much of a problem. My bike is the same except it’s a 1000, carbs will be dialed in (air correction jets too) and electronic ignition with hot coils. All new tires and bearings .
Is the 1000 faster than the 900 in a quarter mile?
A quick google will tell you no.
The 900s were lighter overall and spun up faster due to a lighter crank -
If both are running well, sounds like he has the experience and is going to smoke you.... again
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Yesterday 18:11
I dont know Mr. E. it sounds like you might just be fanning the flames. I used chatgpt and this is what it says.
Short answer: stock vs stock, the ’78 KZ1000A is a little faster than the ’76 KZ900.Typical period-test numbers (bone stock, good tune, pro rider):
Honestly I would be happy for him if he did. But reality is ive beat him on new 600’s.
Short answer: stock vs stock, the ’78 KZ1000A is a little faster than the ’76 KZ900.Typical period-test numbers (bone stock, good tune, pro rider):
- 1976 KZ900 (903 cc): ~12.2–12.4 sec @ ~110–112 mph ¼-mile; top speed ~130–132 mph.
- 1978 KZ1000A (1015 cc): ~11.7–12.0 sec @ ~114–117 mph ¼-mile; top speed ~133–136 mph.
Honestly I would be happy for him if he did. But reality is ive beat him on new 600’s.
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Yesterday 15:59
Any new 600 is going to smoke these older bikes. Your talking about 100lbs less and 120+hp compared to these OGs at 500+ lbs and under 90hp.
I own a 77 1000 so I would love to see the kz1000 take it. Record and post it for us all to enjoy!
I own a 77 1000 so I would love to see the kz1000 take it. Record and post it for us all to enjoy!
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Yesterday 16:24 - Yesterday 16:25
You bet I will. That would be fun. Have you got any secrets to share about unlocking a few ponies in the KZ1000?
I do like putting around on the KZ though. Its just a different experience.
I do like putting around on the KZ though. Its just a different experience.
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