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Here is a better picture.

Why do they supply an h4 bulb for high beams, and an HID for low, not the other-way around? what size is the h4?
would it be acceptable to remove the shield, and rewire to use the HID for hi, and the h4 for low beam?
i just cant see using poor lighting, for night time running lights? i would like better lighting when people and cars are around and great lighting when they are not.
any other options?

otakar wrote:

That is the yipe of reflector you do NOT want to use with the HID conversion. The faceted lens works as a diffuser for the light instead of focusing it. The reflector you want to use is the one in my picture.

This will compare to about 10A to 11A with conventional bulbs on your bike with a 65W headlight and an ADDITIONAL 2A if you run a 90W headlight.

A couple of clarifications to the information above, if I may.

1) The headlamp unit in the picture above uses a clear, smooth lens and a multi-faceted reflector. The reflector itself does the job of focusing the light, true. In the headlamp unit that I showed a few posts up, it has a diffused lens and a smooth reflector, the opposite. In it's case, the lens itself focuses the light. They both do the same thing and the beam pattern for the same H4 bulb would be very, very similar. Companies started making the clear lens models for styling purposes, nothing more. For example, Hella has done the same with the popular 500 Series lamps. They are now offered in a clear lens "FF" or "Free-Form" version alongside the classic style. See the image below for a visual comparison. The light output is nearly identical.

2) 65W bulbs do not draw anywhere near 10-11 amps unless your wiring is totally degraded. Using the most basic formula in electronics, Ohm's Law (Amps=Watts/Volts), a 65W bulb in a 12V system will draw 5.41A. If anyone's system draws more than say, 6A with a 65W bulb, check all of the ground wires for corrosion and consider using a new relay to bypass the old stock wiring to the headlight. Excess amperage not only sucks your limited available power but creates a lot of heat and can cause serious wiring problems such as melted wires.

2) 65W bulbs do not draw anywhere near 10-11 amps unless your wiring is totally degraded. Using the most basic formula in electronics, Ohm's Law (Amps=Watts/Volts), a 65W bulb in a 12V system will draw 5.41A. If anyone's system draws more than say, 6A with a 65W bulb, check all of the ground wires for corrosion and consider using a new relay to bypass the old stock wiring to the headlight. Excess amperage not only sucks your limited available power but creates a lot of heat and can cause serious wiring problems such as melted wires.

Please read the whole post. Compare apples to apples. I said what the "System Draws" not what just the headlamp draws. This includes EVERYTHING in the LIST. Yes we all know that 65w/12v=5.42a

Also there is an enormous difference between a reflected beam and a refracted beam. A reflected beam is intensified but a refracted beam is scattered.

atye wrote:

otakar wrote:

As I said before; much of the stuff we talk about here on this web sight is not legal, because it is not DOT approved. Why should this be any different. Would this be any deferent if we talked about the header that most all of us have on our bike that is not legal.

The main difference is that the headlights are one of THE most important

safety

items on a vehicle and they have the potential to affect other drivers in a negative way (ex: blinding them). Performance mods like exhaust and cams and such do not have the same potential.

No hard feelings here, I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, I promise. I guess that because I work for a major lighting company this topic is important to me and it seems that a lot of the general public do not know all of the facts about the subject.

I mantion the light mods are illegal for an obvious reason: as stated, they make the lights brighter and therefore, are immediately obvious to cops. I never see anybody get written up for headers unless they run without the baffle and break somebody's eardrums. Bright lights are particularly dangerous because they can seriously blind you if they are adjusted wrong.

I have never seen anyone get written up for headlights unless they had one burned out. Those citations are very common. I personally know quite a few people who did the HID conversion in older vehicles and they have never been stopped for that violation. But we all know that; "Life is known to cause cancer in the state of California"

Hello Headlight Experts:
A relative gave me all the components for a 35 Watt Zenon HID light system, except for the glass enclosure or headlight itself. Included, is the ballast, wiring, plugs, the lamp itself, etc.

My '82 KZ650 still has the original 7" round sealed beam bulb. Therefore I need to buy the glass headlight housing that will accept the new H4 style bulb. What particular type or style do you guys recommend? Where should I buy this? I would like it to look as much like the original as possible, with a convex front surface.

Another thing about this system, is that the lamp itself switches from low to high by physically moving a section for and aft within the bulb. Therefore I do not anticipate needing any other bulb arrangement.

Please advise. Thanks.

otakar wrote:

I have never seen anyone get written up for headlights unless they had one burned out. Those citations are very common. I personally know quite a few people who did the HID conversion in older vehicles and they have never been stopped for that violation. But we all know that; "Life is known to cause cancer in the state of California"

Kali cops do it to hassle cruisers (both cars and bikes) who cruise in groups and annoy people. They completely check the vehicles and write up everything that isn't street legal or stock legal. In kali, just about any light/intake/exhaust mods are illegal unless the units are submitted to the state for testing and certification. In reality, the only things that will get caught are things that are obviously modified.

It is known that; "Tickets are known to cause cancer in the state of California" Or is it the Cops, I forget.

WABBMW wrote:

Hello Headlight Experts:
A relative gave me all the components for a 35 Watt Zenon HID light system, except for the glass enclosure or headlight itself. Included, is the ballast, wiring, plugs, the lamp itself, etc.

My '82 KZ650 still has the original 7" round sealed beam bulb. Therefore I need to buy the glass headlight housing that will accept the new H4 style bulb. What particular type or style do you guys recommend? Where should I buy this? I would like it to look as much like the original as possible, with a convex front surface.

Another thing about this system, is that the lamp itself switches from low to high by physically moving a section for and aft within the bulb. Therefore I do not anticipate needing any other bulb arrangement.

Please advise. Thanks.

You require this type of reflector.

Where can I buy one of those? Also can you provide a Brand or model number? Thanks.