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Toggle to replace key ignition switch 8 years 8 months ago #246747

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Hey guys,

I'm considering replacing my key ignition switch with a toggle switch. I understand that their is a certain risk in doing so, but was wondering if anyone has done this on a kz. It looks like I will actually need two switches to do it correctly....anyone?

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Toggle to replace key ignition switch 8 years 8 months ago #246751

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I had one on my 900 years ago. I can't remember how I wired it up but I was 20 years old so if I could figure it out then, anyone should be able to figure it out now. :laugh: I think it went something like one wire to one plug on the back of the switch and three wires to the other. It is pretty easy.

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We would require the electrical schematic to tell you what would be required for the switch usually accomplishes more than one function.

Same time, why would you even want to do this?
On a drag or racing bike I'd totally understand but on a street bike... :huh:

Anyone have a schematic for his bike (1980 KZ250)?

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Like I said, I'm thinking about it, and understand the risk. IF I do it, I will hide the switches somewhere less obvious than the gauge cluster/handlebar area. Here is the schematic you wanted:




Don't ask me what park is....I only have ON and OFF on my switch!!
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PARK is the far right position of the key, 1 click past ON.
It turns on the tail light if you have parked on the side of the road for (1980) safety.

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mariozappa wrote:

PARK is the far right position of the key, 1 click past ON.
It turns on the tail light if you have parked on the side of the road for (1980) safety.


OH! That's kinda cool, but I'm pretty sure mine is only a two position switch...will check it out later...

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1 single pole double throw switch is all you need then... Switch White to Brown and switch Blue to Red...

or two single pole single throw switches, one for each.


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If you want to make it difficult to steal, have several switches with dummy wires with the same color code scattered around the bike. Or more than one toggle switch in the ignition circuit only wired backwards(I.E. off for on).

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MFolks wrote:

If you want to make it difficult to steal, have several switches with dummy wires with the same color code scattered around the bike. Or more than one toggle switch in the ignition circuit only wired backwards(I.E. off for on).


That is the main reason I'm not sure I want to do the toggle switch. Though it would be simple for me to wire a hidden battery cutoff switch to increase security...

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If you want to make it difficult to steal...


Trust me, if they WANT it they will TAKE it!

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To throw a potential thief another problem is get a surplus Mil-Spec water resistant rotary switch with 6-8 positions and wire several toggle switches in line with it. The only way then to take it would be to pick it up.

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mariozappa wrote:

If you want to make it difficult to steal...


Trust me, if they WANT it they will TAKE it!


I COMPLETELY agree with this statement. No matter what it has for security, someone that wants it bad enough, will find a way around it and take the bike...

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1966 A1 Samurai (Restoration Project)

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are you replacing the switch because of problems or just to do something different, because there are aftermarket switches around i think emgo makes one that would fit.

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timebomb33 wrote:

are you replacing the switch because of problems or just to do something different, because there are aftermarket switches around i think emgo makes one that would fit.


The ignition switch I have works just fine, though I only have one key and can't find anywhere locally that has the right blank to make me a spare or two. I'm just thinking about my different options just in case I lose/break the key I have (though that would be a pain to fill gas tank and remove seat....). I like the idea of not having to mess with a key, though I'm a little wary about the theft side....just exploring options though....

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1980 KZ250 LTD (traded, but still missed)
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1966 A1 Samurai (Restoration Project)

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KZ1000 P (For a "touring" bike)
Z1 (need I...
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