How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
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How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
22 Dec 2009 13:01
On my carbs, there is suppose to be a plug on the vacuum tube by the #2 carb. I forgot to put it on on my first test ride after cleaning the carbs, syncing, and what not. I rode for like an hour.
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
22 Dec 2009 13:12
Get one on ASAP.
Without it would lean out that cylinder which could cause some problem, maybe even hole a piston. :ohmy:
Without it would lean out that cylinder which could cause some problem, maybe even hole a piston. :ohmy:
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
22 Dec 2009 13:15
Pull the spark plug for the #2 cylinder. It will be very white. The key is there MUST NOT be any aluminum metal specs on it. If there are, you have a bigger issue.
By running lean on that one cylinder, you could have caused the piston top to start to melt - and the first sign of that is those specs of aluminum on the spark plug.
By running lean on that one cylinder, you could have caused the piston top to start to melt - and the first sign of that is those specs of aluminum on the spark plug.
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
22 Dec 2009 19:56 - 22 Dec 2009 20:05
I put the plug back on. I rode about 28 miles like this.
I don't see any specs of aluminum on the spark plug but the little tip is white. Should I just change the whitish spark plug then?
Alright, this is what the #2 spark plug looks like right when I removed it to check. The tip is very white.
I will say that I did ride around after putting the plug back on before removing the spark plug and taking a picture. The bike was really riding nice. Feels very strong, and pulls. I also want to reiterate that the vacuum plugs on the #2 vacuum tube is a plug about the size of a valve stem cover. When I did ride without the plug it was about a 14 mile street ride going about 45mph...with a 10 minute stop...and then 14 miles back home.
I don't see any specs of aluminum on the spark plug but the little tip is white. Should I just change the whitish spark plug then?
Alright, this is what the #2 spark plug looks like right when I removed it to check. The tip is very white.
I will say that I did ride around after putting the plug back on before removing the spark plug and taking a picture. The bike was really riding nice. Feels very strong, and pulls. I also want to reiterate that the vacuum plugs on the #2 vacuum tube is a plug about the size of a valve stem cover. When I did ride without the plug it was about a 14 mile street ride going about 45mph...with a 10 minute stop...and then 14 miles back home.
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
22 Dec 2009 21:38
If you don't see any specs of aluminum then you are probably ok. I wouldn't change the plug. All you can do at this point is just keep riding it.
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
22 Dec 2009 22:54
Is the spark plug factory specified heat range? 
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
23 Dec 2009 00:33
Other than the leanness, that plug looks healthy enough.
Just as a preview of what can happen with a lean issue:
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Just as a preview of what can happen with a lean issue:
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
23 Dec 2009 03:33
Oh man what a scary thought, I could of ruined my bike over this mistake. Riding with the plug back on yesterday, I did notice a huge performance improvement. The bike is running great now especially considering how it ran when I first got it. What a huge improvement by just cleaning the carbs/jets and giving the bike a carb sync. No more having to run with the choke on, no more stalls at idle, just smooth running, both on street and freeway. Too bad it is getting a bit too cold out to ride 
On one note, I think I did have the idle adjustment screw set too high when I did run without that plug...so perhaps this created some kind of balance and saved that one piston from running to lean or whatever? Because when I put that vacuum plug back on I had to back down on the idle adjustment screw to get the idle right.

On one note, I think I did have the idle adjustment screw set too high when I did run without that plug...so perhaps this created some kind of balance and saved that one piston from running to lean or whatever? Because when I put that vacuum plug back on I had to back down on the idle adjustment screw to get the idle right.
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
23 Dec 2009 06:46
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Tim what kind of motor got sacrificed in the pics? Total destruction, OUCH
Tim what kind of motor got sacrificed in the pics? Total destruction, OUCH
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
23 Dec 2009 07:16
slightly lean on the street isn't usually too bad. Very lean is...
It's when you are putting load on the engine for sustained periods when it can turn into a terminal problem.
It's when you are putting load on the engine for sustained periods when it can turn into a terminal problem.
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
23 Dec 2009 11:56
Kawickrice wrote:
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As Jeff said, it was jetted a little lean from the factory, I was just pushing it too hard for too long and it also had a few leaky gaskets = perfect storm. Went from 75mph to nothing in a very short period of time :blink:
Tim what kind of motor got sacrificed in the pics? Total destruction, OUCH
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As Jeff said, it was jetted a little lean from the factory, I was just pushing it too hard for too long and it also had a few leaky gaskets = perfect storm. Went from 75mph to nothing in a very short period of time :blink:
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Re: How important is that #2 vacuum plug?
23 Dec 2009 12:45
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.........The bike is running great now especially considering how it ran when I first got it. What a huge improvement by just cleaning the carbs/jets and giving the bike a carb sync. No more having to run with the choke on, no more stalls at idle, just smooth running, both on street and freeway. Too bad it is getting a bit too cold out to ride.................quote]
Thats great news sakiguy. I have watched your posts here over the past few weeks and with each one you made progress. It must give you a great feeling of satisfaction that you learned this stuff and made the bike work and run the way it should.
Well done:)
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