Gibralter by 3/24
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
12 Mar 2017 16:58
I am not questioning your work, maybe its my eyes, but looking at the picture that is posted, the piece that is welded on, the part that goes at the bottom, it looks like its not level or parallel with top, does it matter?
I have a 1980 Kawasaki KZ750 Ltd. I bought new. I recently managed to get it out of my garage after 28 years and put it on the road again (2010). I feel like a kid all over again. Since I have acquired 3 78 KZ1000 Ltd, 1 1981 KZ1000 Ltd, and another 1980 KZ750 Ltd. Love the LTD's.
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
12 Mar 2017 17:21
very cool......following
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( #15...17K Miles)
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project
1982 GS1000sz Katana ( # 297....7100k Miles)
1978 Kz1000 Z1R. 10K Miles1
1978 kz1000 z1r 27k miles
1977 KZ 1000 A ( Project ) 54K Miles
1976 Kz900A4 (Red)21K miles
1976 Kz900A4 ( Red)7500 miles
1974 Z1 900 project
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
12 Mar 2017 17:57
Your eyes are right mopguy, it's not parallel. not designed to be. look at almost all underbraced arms you'll see a theme. Couple reasons, a triangle is strong and chain clearance.
Test fit of a similar chain guard to what I'll be running, ready for powder coat
Upper shock mount retainer/fastener
Start on getting triple trees wrapped up and front mounted tomorrow.
Les Holt
Test fit of a similar chain guard to what I'll be running, ready for powder coat
Upper shock mount retainer/fastener
Start on getting triple trees wrapped up and front mounted tomorrow.
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
12 Mar 2017 18:04
Thank you Les, I learn a lot from you and the other guys here, by the way, your Ltd is one of my favorite bikes.
I have a 1980 Kawasaki KZ750 Ltd. I bought new. I recently managed to get it out of my garage after 28 years and put it on the road again (2010). I feel like a kid all over again. Since I have acquired 3 78 KZ1000 Ltd, 1 1981 KZ1000 Ltd, and another 1980 KZ750 Ltd. Love the LTD's.
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
12 Mar 2017 18:11
Les
What size rear wheel and tire are you set up for ?
Will the swingarm design allow for stock LTD rear foot peg frame arrangement ?
Im Liking it alot !!!!
Dave
What size rear wheel and tire are you set up for ?
Will the swingarm design allow for stock LTD rear foot peg frame arrangement ?
Im Liking it alot !!!!
Dave



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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
12 Mar 2017 18:20 - 12 Mar 2017 18:23
Mopguy, I'm not done with this one yet! First bike I've worked on for myself in almost 2 years and promise to set new bar for my shop!
Dave, tire size changed today, after I started to do a mockup and it wouldn't even come close to making center. I have brand new takeoffs from a 2015 R1 Yamaha, the tire is a 190/55-17 and it's a monster!!! Just bought a R6 wheel which is 1/2" narrower than the R1 and going to order a 170 or 180/55-17 Michelin, experience with them seems they are 1/4"-1/2" narrower than Dunlops so all this should provide perfect clearance.
As for fitting your footpeg arrangement, that was one of the build criteria, it had to clear factory peg mounts.

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Dave, tire size changed today, after I started to do a mockup and it wouldn't even come close to making center. I have brand new takeoffs from a 2015 R1 Yamaha, the tire is a 190/55-17 and it's a monster!!! Just bought a R6 wheel which is 1/2" narrower than the R1 and going to order a 170 or 180/55-17 Michelin, experience with them seems they are 1/4"-1/2" narrower than Dunlops so all this should provide perfect clearance.
As for fitting your footpeg arrangement, that was one of the build criteria, it had to clear factory peg mounts.



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76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle...-concours-bike-show/
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
12 Mar 2017 23:35
Everything looks so good Les, colour is one of my very favorites, that swinger looks very balanced with the rest of the bike....at some stage could you post info on the show and the dates your bike will be down there.....

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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
13 Mar 2017 03:05
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
13 Mar 2017 10:20 - 13 Mar 2017 10:20les holt wrote: ZERO frame mods except for mild frame bracing!!!
Looks like a frame mod to me. :whistle: Since the arm is 2" longer could you have not moved the shock mount on the swingarm back to accomplish the same geometry?
Anyways, looking nice as always Les.
Later, Doug
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
13 Mar 2017 11:19
Yeah, more than that, sometimes intentions are well meant, just hard to keep.
On the shocks location, I've shot for 30 deg angle shocks for years on my swingarm builds and probably could have done that here by moving the bottom shock mounts back but,,,,, after playing with a shock to tire movement ratio and looking at bulldocks and sanctuary builds, they had to know something so I started mocking up and a big gain, other than getting the 30deg is almost getting a parallel alignment side to side.
If you notice, I did cut the rear peg hangers off as well so a little more modified than just gussets.
Les
On the shocks location, I've shot for 30 deg angle shocks for years on my swingarm builds and probably could have done that here by moving the bottom shock mounts back but,,,,, after playing with a shock to tire movement ratio and looking at bulldocks and sanctuary builds, they had to know something so I started mocking up and a big gain, other than getting the 30deg is almost getting a parallel alignment side to side.
If you notice, I did cut the rear peg hangers off as well so a little more modified than just gussets.
Les
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76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle...-concours-bike-show/
76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle...-concours-bike-show/
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
13 Mar 2017 18:46
Had to get home to get to these pics. this is the back end of the rootbeer brown bike I did last year. you can see that the top of the shocks are layed in.
Look close at this pic, it shows how much the shock is moved out.
Les
Look close at this pic, it shows how much the shock is moved out.
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76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
www.cycleworld.com/2013/09/04/2013-cycle...-concours-bike-show/
76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
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Re: Gibralter by 3/24
15 Mar 2017 07:14
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76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
accelerate.presspublisher.us/issue/issue-6-2012/article/ltd
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76 kz 900 turbo
77 LTD 1000 turbo
2 78 Z1R's
72 H2
kzrider.com/forum/13-bike-related/491552...one-followed-me-home
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