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Best oil to unstick a stuck ring? 18 Jul 2018 16:37 #787197

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old_kaw wrote:  

 Just for giggles TRY rotating the advance sleeve 180 degrees on the plate to see it it pops? (as Nessism suggested)


I can't do that because the contacts would be CLOSING at the F mark. Review the video and you'll see they are opening.




 
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Are you sure it´s a typo???



Watch your e-starter video 10 times and for me the engine turns clockwise.
Try to push start the bike!
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Scirocco wrote: Are you sure it´s a typo???
 


Yeah, cranksahft is not a word.

Also, impossible for the engine to turn backwards. The one way bearing cannot operate in reverse. It's also the reason why I cannot turn the engine backwards by hand, the one way bearing will catch and the starter motor won't move.
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Scirocco wrote: Are you sure it´s a typo???



Watch your e-starter video 10 times and for me the engine turns clockwise.
Try to push start the bike!


 Exactly! Push starting would put the question of correct rotation to rest.  Not all bikes rotate clockwise. And in looking at the advancer, my thinking may be wrong on this one, but wouldn't an advancer, "advance"  in the direction of rotation?  As in, when the RPM's increase, the timing advances forward, in crankshaft degrees? Right? 

 If it indeed is cranking in the wrong direction, Was the starter clutch changed recently? Perhaps the wrong starter clutch, or could it possibly be installed backwards? Isn't this the bike that the starter was running backwards?  I'm not keeping up very well, huh?  :-)
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One1 wrote: The valves open at timing for the right and timing for the left when they are supposed to. When setting the valves i watched their rotation and they peaked right on point with the timing mark on the crank. Doesn't make any sense. 


 That motor is rotating clockwise. I've watched this video at least 10 times, and that crank is rotating clockwise while cranking (from the points side). It's hard to tell rotation from the video while the crank is turning until the 4-5 second mark, and as the cranks stops turning. This crank is clearly turning clockwise. 

 The other video's show you turning it with a wrench counterclockwise while checking timing, then watching it turn the opposite direction with the starter?  Okey dokie. lol
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Best oil to unstick a stuck ring? 19 Jul 2018 07:52 #787216

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Kawasaki bikes use two different coil impedances....2 and 4 ohm.  (primary)  Which one do you have and is it the correct one for the bike?

When the points are open what is the voltage on the green/black wire with respect to battery ground?  
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Best oil to unstick a stuck ring? 19 Jul 2018 15:59 #787231

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old_kaw wrote:

One1 wrote: The valves open at timing for the right and timing for the left when they are supposed to. When setting the valves i watched their rotation and they peaked right on point with the timing mark on the crank. Doesn't make any sense. 


 That motor is rotating clockwise. I've watched this video at least 10 times, and that crank is rotating clockwise while cranking (from the points side). It's hard to tell rotation from the video while the crank is turning until the 4-5 second mark, and as the cranks stops turning. This crank is clearly turning clockwise. 

 The other video's show you turning it with a wrench counterclockwise while checking timing, then watching it turn the opposite direction with the starter?  Okey dokie. lol


Well watch it 11 times because while I'm damn good i can't bend the laws of space and time. As i said earlier its impossible to rotate the engine backwards. They don't call it a 2 way bearing. All engines reverse when stopped, it's called compression kickback. If you've ever used a kick start you've experienced it. That alone should tell you which way an engine is turning.
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hardrockminer wrote: Kawasaki bikes use two different coil impedances....2 and 4 ohm.  (primary)  Which one do you have and is it the correct one for the bike?

When the points are open what is the voltage on the green/black wire with respect to battery ground?  


I'll check and see. 
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 I just watched it at least 5-6 more times, at full screen and I swear, It appears to be turning clockwise. 

 Believe me, I Do know how a starter clutch works, and I agree it will only turn one way and lock in the other direction, unless it has been tampered with. There was a post about a broken starter clutch here recently. I don't remember who posted about it, apparently it wasn't you.

 Obviously, you are good because with EVERYTHING "balls ON" this little motor won't run, so time and space must have veered off into the cosmos somewhere. lol

  
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So with all this whatever? Did you pull the ;point cam off of the weights? And turn it 180 just to try it?????
might take ya' all of 1-2 minutes.
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z1kzonly wrote: So with all this whatever? Did you pull the ;point cam off of the weights? And turn it 180 just to try it?????
might take ya' all of 1-2 minutes.


 It does appear to be indexed properly. If you look at the pic with the blue rubber gloved hand holding the advancer assembly, the index mark on the point cam is indexed with the small hole by the "Tec" marking.. if indeed still indexed there. 
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Best oil to unstick a stuck ring? 20 Jul 2018 06:30 #787260

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Scirocco wrote
It´s sounds crazy but I think i got it!!!
In your video your engine turns/rotate clockwise on the pointer side with the e-starter motor. In the manual the timing advancer/engine should be turn/rotate counter clockwise!!!

I dont think its crazy. Very sane actually
I always thought that the kz twins are "backwards" running engines. If someone has managed to make a twin turn clockwise then ...................

See what Patton has to say here www.kzrider.com/forum/2-engine/592509-cr...t-rotation-direction

Likely because the running KZ750 twin engine crankshaft is turning opposite from the bike's forward rolling wheels.
In other words, the running KZ750 twin engine is turning counter-clockwise when viewed toward its starboard side.
Sometimes referred to as a "backward" running engine -- just like KZ400 twins, and Ed's old BSA 650 twin engine (even though BSA's sister Triumph models have forward running engines, so I've been told 
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