If You Think You Don't Need ZDDP In the Oil

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Re: If You Think You Don't Need ZDDP In the Oil

02 Jun 2012 19:46 - 02 Jun 2012 19:47

Mobil 1 end user Test

a] If you spill it on a hot exhaust manifold, it will flame!
b] If your 3.8 GM pukes an intake gasket and fills the crank case with coolant, the oil doesn't turn mikly white.

Which one is hazardous? :kiss:

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02 Jun 2012 20:05 - 02 Jun 2012 20:06

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LarryC wrote: Mobil 1 end user Test

a] If you spill it on a hot exhaust manifold, it will flame!
b] If your 3.8 GM pukes an intake gasket and fills the crank case with coolant, the oil doesn't turn mikly white.

Which one is hazardous? :kiss:

Depending on the engine the exhaust manifold might set nearby oak trees on fire. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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02 Jun 2012 20:06

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I don't know about driving 1 mile to work, but I drive 3 each way and have for 34 yrs now. It's never bothered the oil. I mostly ride to work if it's not snow and ice, and yes I'd get that white sludge under the fill cap during cold weather, but otherwise never had any problem.

321,000 miles on KZ's that I can remember. Not going to see any more.

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02 Jun 2012 20:49

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mtkawboy wrote: Wireman do you really think that driving 1 mile each way to work at zero or below temps wont fill any oil pan with water & turn it into jello ? The brand makes no difference, this wasnt an attack on Mobil 1, its great oil but it doesnt last forever under all conditions. My point was any oil needs to be changed. if you dont agree, fine, I have no problem with that, it aint mine. being a lineman I can understand a wiremans thinking. That was a joke, no Im not serious.

Actually I have a class A electrical contractors license and can can work in several differant states,I also have several master plumbers licenses and can work just about anyplace a United plumbing code or National plumbing code License is recognized.
I can also work on low-pressure (hot water) or High pressure (steam boilers) in many areas.
And I can also work on refrigiration and med gas systems.
Its got nothing to do with thinking like an electrician,Its got everything to do with you talking about mobil 1 turning to varnish inside of a motor while at the same time talking about never having a problem with youre brand of oil then coming back and trying to add to the storie. :laugh:

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Re: If You Think You Don't Need ZDDP In the Oil

02 Jun 2012 20:53

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LarryC wrote: Mobil 1 end user Test

a] If you spill it on a hot exhaust manifold, it will flame!
b] If your 3.8 GM pukes an intake gasket and fills the crank case with coolant, the oil doesn't turn mikly white.

Which one is hazardous? :kiss:

Mine is a 3.8 ford.Didnt dump antifreeze into the oil ,it dumped it into the intake ports common problem with ford 3.8s.
The oil never turned milky,just ran a little rough.

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02 Jun 2012 21:43

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Re: If You Think You Don't Need ZDDP In the Oil

02 Jun 2012 21:47 - 02 Jun 2012 21:50

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Opps, screwed up :pinch:

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Re: If You Think You Don't Need ZDDP In the Oil

02 Jun 2012 21:51

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650ed wrote:

LarryC wrote: Mobil 1 end user Test

a] If you spill it on a hot exhaust manifold, it will flame!
b] If your 3.8 GM pukes an intake gasket and fills the crank case with coolant, the oil doesn't turn mikly white.

Which one is hazardous? :kiss:

Depending on the engine the exhaust manifold might set nearby oak trees on fire. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Not to mention "Billet Oak" camshafts and walnut inlayed lifters! :silly:

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02 Jun 2012 22:48 - 02 Jun 2012 23:07

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Re: If You Think You Don't Need ZDDP In the Oil

03 Jun 2012 01:03

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so what is the ZDDP PPM requirement for our KZs? Is Rotella still adequate for now? Can I add some STP oil treatment to get it where it needs to be????
So confused!!! :S :whistle:

I do use a bit of oil treatment in my scooter engines. Seems to be fine.

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03 Jun 2012 01:11

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Im more worried about the little stuff like keeping tires aired up and checking the rubber for dry rot,chain cleaning/tightening/oiling ,flushing brake fluid once a year,keeping oil changed/cleaned,valves adjusted................

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Re: If You Think You Don't Need ZDDP In the Oil

03 Jun 2012 23:41

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wireman wrote:

mtkawboy wrote: Wireman do you really think that driving 1 mile each way to work at zero or below temps wont fill any oil pan with water & turn it into jello ? The brand makes no difference, this wasnt an attack on Mobil 1, its great oil but it doesnt last forever under all conditions. My point was any oil needs to be changed. if you dont agree, fine, I have no problem with that, it aint mine. being a lineman I can understand a wiremans thinking. That was a joke, no Im not serious.

Actually I have a class A electrical contractors license and can can work in several differant states,I also have several master plumbers licenses and can work just about anyplace a United plumbing code or National plumbing code License is recognized.
I can also work on low-pressure (hot water) or High pressure (steam boilers) in many areas.
And I can also work on refrigiration and med gas systems.
Its got nothing to do with thinking like an electrician,Its got everything to do with you talking about mobil 1 turning to varnish inside of a motor while at the same time talking about never having a problem with youre brand of oil then coming back and trying to add to the storie. :laugh:

Impressive credentials Wireman but no lineman will ever give a "narrow back" his due. I spent some time in a linemans local and never heard the end of it. :laugh:

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