12 - 12.5 compression ratio in KZ1000P?
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Re: 12 - 12.5 compression ratio in KZ1000P?
05 May 2006 20:59
your actual cranking pressure is more of a concern than the pistons it depends on your camshafts if your valves say open a long time the actual pressure will be lower inside motor.does this make sense,now im confused!:S :whistle: :woohoo:
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Re: 12 - 12.5 compression ratio in KZ1000P?
06 May 2006 05:51
Who knows? Around here we might see a motor with tractor cams and a power takeoff for running sawmill, pump, and possum plucker.
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Re: 12 - 12.5 compression ratio in KZ1000P?
06 May 2006 06:20
12-12.5: compression with streetable cams is going to result in a short lived motor, detonation will blow holes in the pistons unless you run racing gas in it (or alcohol). You could run long duration cams with lot's of overlap to blow part of the intake charge out the exhaust or back out the intake to lower effective compression, but it's not going to be any fun to ride on the street.
Heat is not really the problem, piston killing detonation is what you have to worry about
Heat is not really the problem, piston killing detonation is what you have to worry about

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Re: 12 - 12.5 compression ratio in KZ1000P?
07 May 2006 08:50
Also, a thicker head gasket (or base gasket) to lower compression is not a good way to go. This will eliminate quench, or squish, altogether, greatly slowing the burn and requiring excessive spark advance to run right, therefore still being "ping-prone", even with lower compression.
Run it at 12.5:1, use moderately hot cams, and build yourself a 'still to make your fuel, mixed with a little gas or other substance to keep from scouring your cylinder walls with straight alcoholB)
Run it at 12.5:1, use moderately hot cams, and build yourself a 'still to make your fuel, mixed with a little gas or other substance to keep from scouring your cylinder walls with straight alcoholB)
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Re: 12 - 12.5 compression ratio in KZ1000P?
08 May 2006 04:21
Here's a pic of the piston. I decided not to buy the set, since it looks like:
1 - high compression is unusable on the street (trouble with longevity and starting)
2 - lowering compression using a thicker gasket means trouble burning the mixture, meaning lots of trouble getting the ignition timing right.
Either way this set will mean lots of time, trouble and expense to get working right.
If anyone is interested, I can post the sellers' details. Location: Netherlands, near Amsterdam.
Post edited by: Zthou1977, at: 2006/05/08 07:23
1 - high compression is unusable on the street (trouble with longevity and starting)
2 - lowering compression using a thicker gasket means trouble burning the mixture, meaning lots of trouble getting the ignition timing right.
Either way this set will mean lots of time, trouble and expense to get working right.
If anyone is interested, I can post the sellers' details. Location: Netherlands, near Amsterdam.
Post edited by: Zthou1977, at: 2006/05/08 07:23
1977 Z1000A1, 1982-1986 KZ1000P (built from two piles of parts), Moto Martin Z1200 (trying to get it registered), 1977 Z650B1
Utrecht, The Netherlands
Utrecht, The Netherlands
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