Alcohol KZ?
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
16 Feb 2011 17:01
I had nothing to do with this and I can't tell you who did. These are from a known good combo installed into a heavyer bike without richening up the mixture to compensate for the added load you can see the result. Check out the heat range on the plug! 1500cc KZ motor
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
16 Feb 2011 20:45
i died laughing at thisXDDDD thats so aweful!! did it blow up or somthing like halfway through the race? He copensated for the loss of compresstion with sugar!!
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
16 Feb 2011 22:35
Kraz1 wrote:
Thanks! Did he write up how he crafted the airbox, or did I miss it? That's one of the coolest ideas I've encountered on here!
mtbspeedfreak wrote:Kraz, do you know those guys?
The custom aluminum airbox with the cylindrical K&N filter on the 900 is downright stunning!
Injected is a member here and on CM. Projects Links below.
AirBox
Check Out the Billet Block Project as well...
Billet Block Project
I fixed the Links.
Thanks! Did he write up how he crafted the airbox, or did I miss it? That's one of the coolest ideas I've encountered on here!
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
17 Feb 2011 05:02
I use alcohol on my KZ's! In a brown bottle, to work on them! :laugh:
You ever get one running, you might as well try some NITRO in it too! :woohoo:
NITRO methane is the 8th wonder of the world!
You ever get one running, you might as well try some NITRO in it too! :woohoo:
NITRO methane is the 8th wonder of the world!
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Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!
Went thru 25 of these in 40 yrs.
I SOLD OUT! THE KAW BARN IS EMPTY.
More room for The Old Girl, Harley 75 FLH Electra Glide,
Old faithful! Points ign. Bendix Orig. carb.
Starts everytime!
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
17 Feb 2011 09:47
otakar wrote:
That would be the complete opposite of my advice. I lost two turbos and a crank to synthetic oils. I've never had a problem with mineral oil in my 750s and we use mineral oil in Storm too.
Only synthetic oils most be used, specificaly poliester oils only and all seals must be changed.
That would be the complete opposite of my advice. I lost two turbos and a crank to synthetic oils. I've never had a problem with mineral oil in my 750s and we use mineral oil in Storm too.
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
17 Feb 2011 10:29
Try to mix alcohol with mineral oil and see what happens.
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
17 Feb 2011 14:31
It goes milky.
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
17 Feb 2011 18:27
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I don't think it detonated, it looks like high EGT, lean, did it. See how it started near the exaust port. Probably started near half track and once that piston started melting did the damage very fast. Imagine all that aluminum stuck to the turbine wheel, very expensive lesson.i died laughing at thisXDDDD thats so aweful!! did it blow up or somthing like halfway through the race? He copensated for the loss of compresstion with sugar!!
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Re: Alcohol KZ?
18 Feb 2011 12:45
Running alcohol can be accomplished with any motor... it's nothing new and has been around in racing applications for a long time. I would not recommend trying to get it to run properly on the road at all because of a lot of factors... it is best utilized on the track in short duration events.
The factors that prevent it from being run on the road effectively :
Fuel economy
Cylinder wash down
Oil contamination
Corrosive nature of the fuel
It runs best when its fuel injected in a high compression motor with a lot of ignition lead - these are also some factors preventing its effective use on street ridden motorcycles.
I have not had any issues with seal swell because I purge my fuel system after each use then flush with lubricant... if you want your equipment to last this has to be done as soon as its parked - you really have to love wrenching on your stuff to even think about doing this conversion.
We use a low cost straight weight oil and dump it after the days running and from what I have seen that alcohol will not seperate from the oil within 6-8 months... even the oil trapped up in the cylinder head has alcohol in it.
We save the oil and reuse it in the lawnmower and snow blower... pit bike, etc.
The factors that prevent it from being run on the road effectively :
Fuel economy
Cylinder wash down
Oil contamination
Corrosive nature of the fuel
It runs best when its fuel injected in a high compression motor with a lot of ignition lead - these are also some factors preventing its effective use on street ridden motorcycles.
I have not had any issues with seal swell because I purge my fuel system after each use then flush with lubricant... if you want your equipment to last this has to be done as soon as its parked - you really have to love wrenching on your stuff to even think about doing this conversion.
We use a low cost straight weight oil and dump it after the days running and from what I have seen that alcohol will not seperate from the oil within 6-8 months... even the oil trapped up in the cylinder head has alcohol in it.
We save the oil and reuse it in the lawnmower and snow blower... pit bike, etc.
1978 KZ650B2 w 1197cc Z1 engine
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
1981 Z50R Honda tow bike
1977 KZ650B1 w 750cc Spectre engine
1979 KZ650C3 w 831cc Hot Rod engine
1978 KZ650C2 w 762cc DFI project
1977 KZ650C1 stock restoration project
1978 KZ650B2 modified project
1978 KZ650B2 Injected Drag 831cc
1980 Z1 Custom Frame Drag 1327cc
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