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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 15 Apr 2014 16:31 #629152

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Anyone have an idea why I might have blown a coil (1/4) for the second time? I have a '77 kz650C1 with dyna s and the coil mod. That all ran great for about 2 yrs then I blew a coil, replaced it, seemed to be good and now that im trying to get ready for the new season im getting no spark on 1 or 4 again. Im not positive its blown but im not sure what else could've gone out that would only affect one coil. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 15 Apr 2014 17:01 #629158

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Are you sure its not the dyna s
Mine went bad it was tricky trouble shooting it though because it would work periodically. work one hour and then wouldn't work for a day. try switching the main coil wires around ( not plug wires). and see if 2 and 3 stop foreign..
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 15 Apr 2014 17:07 #629159

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If you have the old coil test it with an ohm meter.take it to Autozone if you dont have a meter.I do all this with my phone and I'm not computer savvy the guys like Patton and its 650ed have sent me instructions on how to do the test try a search.or I'm sure they will read here and chin in.they got me up and running
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 15 Apr 2014 19:14 #629180

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WTF...people are still doing that stupid coil mod :blink:
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 16 Apr 2014 09:14 #629217

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Is there a reason why you wouldn't want to do it? I thought the purpose of the coil relay mod was to get full battery voltage to the coils?

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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 16 Apr 2014 14:33 #629244

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drfantastik wrote: Anyone have an idea why I might have blown a coil (1/4) for the second time? I have a '77 kz650C1 with dyna s and the coil mod. That all ran great for about 2 yrs then I blew a coil, replaced it, seemed to be good and now that im trying to get ready for the new season im getting no spark on 1 or 4 again. Im not positive its blown but im not sure what else could've gone out that would only affect one coil. Any help would be greatly appreciated.



Besides a mal-functioning ignition coil, there are several other possible causes for lack of spark on #1 and #4 plugs.

Would begin the diagnosis by using a volt-meter to confirm existence of full battery+ voltage at the dual connector (shown below) with the ignition switch ON.





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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 17 Apr 2014 16:43 #629441

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drfantastik wrote: Anyone have an idea why I might have blown a coil (1/4) for the second time? I have a '77 kz650C1 with dyna s and the coil mod. That all ran great for about 2 yrs then I blew a coil, replaced it, seemed to be good and now that im trying to get ready for the new season im getting no spark on 1 or 4 again. Im not positive its blown but im not sure what else could've gone out that would only affect one coil. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Couldn't count how many threads I have seen where one side of a Dyna blew out. Try switching the coils and see if the spark follows the coil or stays on the same side.
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 17 Apr 2014 16:46 #629442

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martin_csr wrote: Is there a reason why you wouldn't want to do it? I thought the purpose of the coil relay mod was to get full battery voltage to the coils?

Some of us think it's a solution in search of a problem. If the voltage is low at the coil, the problem is a bad ignition switch, fuse connection, harness connection, etc.

In my life I have replaced so many blown or seized relays, I refuse to put them in line with any device I really want to keep working.... especially if there is no compelling reason to.
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 19 Apr 2014 11:53 #629605

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First thanks for the responses. So... I have ruled out the coil and I have good voltage to both coils. When I switched the wires on the coils I got the other coil to spark on 1 and 4. So im fairly sure that one side [1/4] of the dyna went bad. So unless someone thinks it may be something else, im going to have to replace it :(
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 19 Apr 2014 12:48 #629612

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drfantastik wrote: First thanks for the responses. So... I have ruled out the coil and I have good voltage to both coils. When I switched the wires on the coils I got the other coil to spark on 1 and 4. So im fairly sure that one side [1/4] of the dyna went bad. So unless someone thinks it may be something else, im going to have to replace it :(

Add this to the "dead Dyna" pile.

From what I read, the factory Kawi electronic ignitions are more durable if you can get one.
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 20 Apr 2014 17:02 #629760

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Ok, so next question. Could a problem with the regulator/rectifier have blown the module or would it most likely have been an isolated problem? Just wondering, if I replace the module will this be the end or should I look at replacing the regulator/rectifier as well
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possible blown coil again???!!!!! 20 Apr 2014 17:18 #629767

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drfantastik wrote: Ok, so next question. Could a problem with the regulator/rectifier have blown the module or would it most likely have been an isolated problem? Just wondering, if I replace the module will this be the end or should I look at replacing the regulator/rectifier as well

Depends on the circuitry. Excessive system voltage may very well have killed it..... killed my CDI one time.
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