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3 phase elec. system to 2 phase alternator possible?? 01 May 2008 21:41 #210588

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I'm throwing a newer motor (not certain of the year - came with the bike} into my old '76 kz650. Alternator is 2 phase?? My old kawi is 3 phase? can these be married without too much modification...new regulator required?
Any help would be greatly appreciated! And thanks to the KZrider community for this forum!

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3 phase elec. system to 2 phase alternator possible?? 01 May 2008 22:14 #210596

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It's not impossible, but it would be better if you used the rectifier/reg assembly designed to go with the alternator.

If you use an alt with only two AC leads into a rectifier designed for three AC input lines, it means the two sets of SCR's that are working will be pulling more current than in a 3 ph system. It might work (?)
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3 phase elec. system to 2 phase alternator possible?? 02 May 2008 06:30 #210645

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Thanks for the reply - if I replace the rectifier and regulator to a 2 phase set-up, would that suffice? Or is there further issue with current involved regardless?? Thanks for you help!

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3 phase elec. system to 2 phase alternator possible?? 02 May 2008 08:50 #210674

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I didn't know there was a 76 KZ650. Are you sure it's not a 77 KZ650 manufactured in 76?

The 77 uses a 3-phase, excited field alternator with seperate regulator and rectifier. The later ones up to about 1980 used 1-phase, permanent magnet alternators with a reg/rec combo. 1981 and later used 3-phase, permanent magnet alternators with reg/rec combo. The 77 regulator works on a totally different principle and is not compatible with the later alternators.

You would have to remove the seperate reg and rec and put in the combo reg/rec. This means some wiring will have to change in the harness. Other than that it should be no problem.

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3 phase elec. system to 2 phase alternator possible?? 02 May 2008 09:02 #210680

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thanks loudhvx - the fog between me and the old KZ is lifting. I've had this one for 15 years or so and I took it apart several years ago after alot of miles. Needless to say I can't part with it and have limited knowledge in these things but always up for a challenge! To put on a combo reg/rec sounds reasonable.
In just two responses on this forum I have almost all the info I need - can't thank you guys enough!!

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