New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

09 Mar 2013 14:09
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

12 Mar 2013 22:42
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 15:15
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Made some progress on modding the carbs today.
Started by making this jig .




That bolts to the carb


Which allows it to be securely mounted central in the lathe chuck


After quite a few carefull light cuts and a high speed finish


I had one 26mm carb bored out to 29.5mm


Repeat three more times and i have a full set. :D


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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 15:52
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Are you boring them to 29 or 31s,what motor are you using them on? :)
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 16:31
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I've took them to 29.5 as is the common mod for these.
Could push them to 30 but it will leave only 1mm wall thickness beneath the carb boot location groove.
Not much of a drop from 1.25mm i know but the castings aren't that constantly precise around the full circumference so avoids any low spots and potential breakthroughs.

Motor is high comp 900 bored to 1015.
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 16:42
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Yeah I thought they were probably 26s,but wasn't sure.
I think its the 28s that can go to 31.When I saw them on your 1428 post it got me thinking theyd have a hell of a bottem end punch,but might tend to hold yo down up top! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 17:45
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zed,it looks as tho you bored them concentric to the original bore.

is that right?

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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 21:27
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531blackbanshee wrote: zed,it looks as tho you bored them concentric to the original bore.

is that right?

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Yes! just followed the original bore.
Only real option for accurate repeat operations on the lathe.
Trying to oval bore for better response as is claimed would still end up breaking through on the topside of the boot groove.
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 21:37
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wireman wrote: Yeah I thought they were probably 26s,but wasn't sure.
I think its the 28s that can go to 31.When I saw them on your 1428 post it got me thinking theyd have a hell of a bottem end punch,but might tend to hold yo down up top! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Yeah! i really should change the title now.
The 28's actually have slightly less meat on the boot side and are very thin if boring to 29+ . going to 31 would destroy them.
As for the 1428, that is waiting in the wings for the next project.
It's going in a Zed frame with a supercharger when i find one and possibly two S&S carbs linked side by side just to be different.
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

22 Mar 2013 22:48
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To be honest, I would have thought that the 28's and 26's were the same castings, just machined different. The designation's are different but they are stamped which says it's after all else is done. I think wiredgeorge was doing the bored out carbs but he hasn't been doing anything lately that I'm aware of? Wish I could pull off a deal like this but I tried it years and I mean YEARS ago without success. I done a lot of things to aid in HP but carbs other than a good ole quadrajet were beyond my capabilitys.

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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

23 Mar 2013 06:42
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I had read previous that the 28's were thinner on the boot side and having both types here i can confirm that to be correct.
They are a fairly slack fit in the tight fitting jig i made for the 26's.
I don't know the reason, maybe they made a fresh mould for them as this type did appear later in the model run and i can't see them boring 1000's of 26mm castings out.
There's not that much in it though and still scope to go to 29mm safely.
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Re: New project.1428 turbo or supercharged, Who knows?

23 Mar 2013 11:00
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I was figuring that they just changed out the core pins to achieve the smaller bores, going off the casting lines in the face of the bore. Guess I was wrong on that one.
I done the same thing quite a few years ago without much success. 20 plus years later I'm quite sure my skills have improved greatly so I may have to try this again myself. ;)

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