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This looks like something I can handle, I thank you. Thanks to your help I should be back in the saddle if it ever stops snowing in Iowa.

Page 14 of this topic has a 1979 KZ650-D2 wiring diagram. Page 12 has one for a 1978 KZ650-C2

Is the 3-phase stator you got going to work with your rotor?

1978 Kz650 for mppittman89
With Dyna S


EDIT 1/15/2019:
Mattylight Barebones Bare Bones Wiring Diagram
1978 Kawasaki Kz650 for Mppittman89
Kz 650

JMKZHI wrote: Page 14 of this topic has a 1979 KZ650-D2 wiring diagram. Page 12 has one for a 1978 KZ650-C2

Is the 3-phase stator you got going to work with your rotor?

A 3-phase stator should be able to swap directly into a 1-phase alternator from the 650/700/750 family. Many have reported success with this swap. It requires a 3-phase reg/rec, of course.

In fact, it may be a good idea for mppittman89 to look into it as he is running a Dyna S on his 78 650, or at least keep an eye on battery voltage, especially on long trips.

loudhvx wrote: A 3-phase stator should be able to swap directly into a 1-phase alternator from the 650/700/750 family. Many have reported success with this swap. It requires a 3-phase reg/rec, of course.

In fact, it may be a good idea for mppittman89 to look into it as he is running a Dyna S on his 78 650, or at least keep an eye on battery voltage, especially on long trips.

Thanks. I didn't know whether or not the earlier rotor could be used with the 3-phase stator.
As for the voltage regulator, from some of your very helpful topics I know a reg-rec from various modern Kawasakis can be used.
EX250. EX500. VN500. and maybe some others that I'm unaware of.

Ya I'm actually at the point of buying a stators and 3 regulator bc I'm getting no spark. What year bikes can I grab a 3 phase stator and regulator off again? I have a 81 kz1000 if it's possible to steal them off that?

mppittman89 wrote: Ya I'm actually at the point of buying a stators and 3 regulator bc I'm getting no spark. What year bikes can I grab a 3 phase stator and regulator off again? I have a 81 kz1000 if it's possible to steal them off that?

If you are getting no spark at all, that is not likely due to the charging system. A battery alone would give you spark.
I don't think a 1000 will swap in. You need a stator from a 1980 or later 650 or 750-four. Before you buy it, make sure it has the correct outside diameter. To make sure it is 3-phase, make sure it has 18 "spokes" to it (not just 12). Reg/rec can be had from those bikes JMKZHI mentioned. But you will have to splice wires since the connectors might be different.
You may want to start another topic in the electrical forum for your ignition issues.

loudhvx wrote: mpatrick19 wrote:

i have a stock electronic ignition, could i just use the diagram for the dyna s for reference? Its an 82 kz750 n1.

There are a few differences such as which coil is mounted on which side and the reg/rec is a single unit. some of the wire colors are different.

1982 KZ750 KZ750N1 bare bones for Mpatrick19

Are you still around and if so I would likje to get the diagram for the '82 KZ750 again as I am working on my KZ and want to remove any extra crud I can. Never mind I found it on page 12. Thanks again.

loudhvx wrote: 1994 Kz1000P Police for Redhedgoon

Now, THIS is a nice looking bare bones ladder diagram. Clear, concise, and easy to read. loudvhx, OBVIOUSLY spent a lot of time making this personalized diagram. A true example of selfless dedication and helping others.

I couldn't make heads or tails out of the OP's diagrams, but I give this one TWO thumbs up! There really are some great people on kzr giving some awesome help. I'm stealing this one.

Thanks a lot old_kaw!

Be aware fuse 2 is more or less optional. It will help in the event of a battery reversal or a totally shorted rectifier, but most Kz's do not use a fuse in the Fuse 2 position (though some later ones do, but then even later ones seemed to abandon it once again).

Fuse 1 is essentially in the main fuse position.

I normally write the word "optional" near fuse 2.
And as another side note, there should never be a fuse between the junction of Fuse1/ Fuse2 and the battery. That can lead to a system meltdown.

1977 Kawasaki Kz650C1 for extremecreative1992
Kick-only
Low-beam-only
Dyna S with Dyna coils.
There is a wire in the Dyna S loom designated for the oil pressure switch. You can ignore that wire. I'm not sure what color that wire would be with the Dyna S.


EDIT 1/15/2019:
Mattylight Barebones Bare Bones Wiring Diagram
1977 Kawasaki Kz650C1 with Dyna S for Extremecreative1992
Kz650C Kz650 C1 Kz 650 C 650C1 650C

I know this is a very old thread but the wiring diagram you have for the Kawasaki 1000 Police---should be the same for a 1100 Spectre as well correct?

Thanks
Jeff

There's a Spectre 1100 diagram on pg 16 kind of near the bottom.
I just did a google search >> search = site:kzrider.com spectre loudhvx. then looked at the google image results. it was easy to find.


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Thank you--I just looked at it and it is the same as the Police one I mentioned above. I do have one question though from the drawing--what is the CRANK PICKUPS that run from the IC Ignitor?

Your bike has electronic ignition. There's s a pulsing coil w 2 pickups mounted to the right side of the engine underneath the small pulsing coil engine cover. The 2 pickups send a signal to the igniter to fire the ignition coils. There's a timing advancer mounted to the end of the crankshaft that initiates or triggers the pickups. I guess that explanation is close enough.

The advancer should be serviced as part of a tuneup. clean, lubricate & inspect it. separate the rotor from the adv body to fill the groove w grease (I'm assuming yours has the groove). Operate the advancer to check that it moves freely. After servicing, check that the springs are good & operate it to verify that the rotor snaps back. Get a new engine cap cover gasket beforehand. or get 2-3 for spares.

ps: the motorcycle needs a good properly serviced battery to run right. It can run at lower speed w a weak battery, but at high speeds the bike will have a misfire, and I think a weak battery might stress the ignition components. not sure about that, though.
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By chance do you have a bare bones wiring diagram for 1981 kz750 LTD?

Did you look thru the pages to see if there's one for your bike? pg 11-on. It should be listed as an 81 KZ750-H2.
There's an 82 KZ750-H3 on pg 15 & an 81 KZ650-H1 CSR on pg 14. I did not look thru any more pages.
The 650-CSR is very similar to the 750H Ltd and has the same ignition system & charging system as the LTD.

Manual & factory wiring diagrams. If you need a pdf manual & Kawasaki wiring diagrams, search for 750turbo.com & mbsween KZ750L3. The Turbo site has a good manual w yellow/gold cover & colored wiring diagrams. There's another 750-4 pdf floating around the internet that's a poorly copied black-&-white version & the one on the Turbo site is much better. The KZ750L3 site has the cruddy pdf but good wiring diagrams. click The Bible link.
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jketchum2120 wrote: By chance do you have a bare bones wiring diagram for 1981 kz750 LTD?

As suggested by martin_csr, check out the following links (the last 2 are wiring diagrams), which covers information for stock bikes:

mbsween.bike-night.com/kz750l3/index.html
mbsween.bike-night.com/kz750l3/manual.html
mbsween.bike-night.com/kz750l3/media/KZ750-H1-US.jpg
mbsween.bike-night.com/kz750l3/media/KZ750-H2-US.jpg

Would the contemplated bare bones set-up be for ignition only (get spark to the plugs), or would certain chassis wiring also be needed for such things as head lights, electric starter, etc?

Good Fortune!

I don't know how Martin finds them, but he's right on. I never did a Kz750H2 Ltd. Only two H1's and one H3, but one of those should work for an H2.

Hey I was looking for a schematic for a 1983 Kz550m1 LTD. If you can help me i would greatly appreciate it.