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Should I take voltage from a dif source?

Turbo99397 wrote: Should I take voltage from a dif source?

No.

Fix it right the first time so you don't have to come back later and fix it right then.

There's so many connections that look un necessary. I got some wire I prefer solder and shrink tube, I have seen some things abt this wired george mod, can I take power right from the battery just as a test to see if that helps the problem, then go thru all the wires?

I went out and rode it, it happened to me for ab half a mile, the coils have been swapped and I swapped and I'd still killed center 2 cyl. What's odd is it will just kick right back in all of a sudden, then when they die it idles like a v twin would sound. But I can be in the throttle and it cuts in and out like a light switch and even when it's doing ok, it runs out of power and won't want to Rev past 8krpm. Redline is 8500 which Iv never even took it that far... I would assume it's electrical since the center 2 are the culprits... no?

Let's start from the top: WHAT MOTORCYCLE DO YOU OWN - year/model/mileage/ownership history? You should add this information to the bottom of your profile

From the description of the problem, I'm am fairly certain you have a timing issue. Perhaps the electronic ignition module has failed on the 2-3 side. Have you tested the electronic ignition module for continuity and ground? I recently acquired a Dyna S on a parts bike that I purchased. Not only was the model not for my KZ650, but it also didn't work. Make sure your electronic ignition module is the right one for your bike and that it is working. Take a photo of it and post here - don't forget to provide your bike info.

Also, you will hear this too many times: GET a Kawasaki Service Manual for your bike. It will cover all the necessary maintenance and help you identify spec voltages, where and how to read them. It's little money for so much knowledge.

1980 kz1000. Here's a pic, looks like the 2-3 side has a crack in it kinda...

1980 kz1000. Here's a pic, looks like the 2-3 side has a crack in it kinda...

Can I get the pickups alone or do I need to replace the whole timing system? I'd like to try to save some cash incase I have to go after something else

1980, that's about when points went "bye bye". That is a Kawasaki electronic ignition system, any crack in a closed casing ignition system is potential trouble. Like coils, the electronic ignition will also get hot - heat most times will cause a faulty ignition part to become obvious (refer to my comment about riding around the block). It might be time to replace your electric ignition - get a Dyna S .

An old school car trick when it comes to hardened plastic ignition casings is to let them dry out and then seal the cracked surface with a JB Weld type bonding/liquid weld epoxy product. It may not fix a bad coil of ignition system, but if it's undamaged will prevent further moisture and heat from entering and affecting the inside metal winding.

The other thing I mentioned is timing. If you look at the 3 screws holding the ignition plate you will notice there is space to rotate the plate counter-clockwise and also clockwise. I don't have a service manual for your bike and can't look it up, but most electric ignitions are mounted in the full advance position since the EI takes care of the rest. I'm not certain this is the case for your particular bike but since there is space in both directions will assume there is potential adjustment necessary to get the timing correct. You need to reference the FSM or manufacturer's installation instructions for this information or use a timing light to make any necessary adjustment.

... just my 79 cents

Update!!! The pickup coil on the right which has red n yellow wire going to it, fires cyl 2 n 3 if I'm not mistaken... ohmed 500 ohms, well I hit it with the hair dryer, ohms climbs to 650 then started going crazy 10k n climbimg til eventually my meter read ol. Tested this abt 5 times made sure my connection was good and it was, other coil ohmed at 500 when the other was hot and reading open. And as I ran cold air over the pickup coil for 2-3 the resistance dropped back down. So I guess my next question is where's best place to get a set of pickup coils? Also noticed alot of corrosion on the connector both male and female end of the ign 4 wire connector

Turbo99397 wrote: So I guess my next question is where's best place to get a set of pickup coils?

If you look up at my post, click Dyna S. Try sealing the crack with JB Weld, it might just work (just don't stuff tons of JB Weld inside) and retest using the hair blower.

Clean wire connections with Deoxit and a small wire brush (repeat on all wire connections on the entire bike, a full day of fun)

Good Luck