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Another angle.
I know, when I called and talked to Dyna to ask them about those coils way back when, they did not recommend them for the 1300 for what ever reason. They were actually the first coils I considered, because they were already quite more known of. I found the Nology with a lot of research after i talked to Dyna and was told NO.

Yeah, those are definitely good looking coils. I've been tempted to try them, then a pair of brand new Dyna minis fell into my lap. They are .5 ohms, so I'll have to use a small circuit to actively reduce the dwell at lower RPMs.

I'll post a photo of the minis next to a dr400cs when I get one, for comparison.

As you can tell by the picture, they are made in Germany. They're made by a company called PVL. Mine still say "Made in West Germany"

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Have you attempted to use the newer 500 Ohm pulsing Cs with your ignition? Would not they work in the same way as the older coils? They're both 500 Ohm +- coils. Ah wuz jis wundrin if day wudnt wark Huh .

I haven't tried any yet, but I've been compiling a bunch of sources with various pickups from watercraft etc. They all end up kinda expensive to where a set of two will be around $100 to $120. I'm waiting for a good $20 pickup to show up somewhere. I do like those little ones that have the magnets built in. There are even some really nice small ones available in the Summit catalog, but still $60 a piece.

There are some cheap ones available for scooters, but they look somewhat unreliable, and I'm not sure I want to trust Italian electronics just yet.

The reason I asked is because these seam to be pretty much ambidextrous, unlike the left and right coils in the earlier bikes.

I could be forgetting something, but I'm pretty sure the older ones are ambidextrous as well. However, the wires have to be routed differently and/or extended. They should mechanically mount in either position, from what I remember, and electrically, they should be the same as long as you know which wires to substitute (black with yellow, and blue with red).

So you can use two 1/4 or 2/3 pickups on the bike, and just re-splice the correct wires.

here are some photos to get an idea, just imagine the taking the two little mounting screws off the actual pickup (for 2/3) and rotating it from 3 oclock to 9 oclock. The wires will be pointing up instead of down, but you will probably want to use different colors so you will just make them longer.

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The only way you could use a coil on ITS other side is to run the wires from the top of the points plate. They have a definite top and bottom.

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This is a link to a Accel ignition module for the HEI. If going to convert I recomend this over the replacement HEI modules that say NAPA sells. These will not only take the RPM but will give more dwell time.
I swear it gave my 425hp 327 chev another 20hp instantly.

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This is a link to a Accel ignition module for the HEI. If going to convert I recomend this over the replacement HEI modules that say NAPA sells. These will not only take the RPM but will give more dwell time.
I swear it gave my 425hp 327 chev another 20hp instantly.

That's interesting. I've been curious about the Accel modules, but in the bike, the HEI barely sees any RPM at all because it is only firing once per revolution. In the car, it is firing 4 times per revolution in a V-8. Also, the dwell in the Kawasaki system is determined by the reluctor rotor, not the module, at least not in the particular circuit design we are using. We are not using the dwell control from the HEI to keep it simple. With a handful more parts we could possibly make a more efficient dwell, but it's already pretty good when matched withe original Kawasaki (or similar) coils.


I just don't think the added cost has any benefit in our application. I've been using the dirt cheap Wells igniters for over 5 years without so much as a hiccup so far.

otakar wrote:

The only way you could use a coil on ITS other side is to run the wires from the top of the points plate. They have a definite top and bottom.

Yes, I'm saying to use them right side up, just rotated around to the other side. I think they can work that way physically. And that means the wires will have to be made longer to go over the top of the points plate. But you'll want to splice different color wires on anyway so that you can tell which wires are which. Otherwise you would end up with two blacks and two blues or two reds and two yellows. New wires would make it easier to figure out which pair is 1/4 and 2/3. They just have to be a little longer.

OK, I just wanted to make sure that we were on the same page. On the KZ1300 the system uses two left and one right coil, with the addition of light and dark green for the second left (bottom) coil.