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Kz550 carb help 29 Jun 2015 21:52 #678799

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So the problem is my carbs keep overflowing and its caused me to run out of gas in a sticky spot.
It started out as a slow drip from #2 over flow and I thought it was the drain screw gasket because when I moved the screw to the #1 bowl the leak went with it. It looks like that was just a crazy coincidence because now, 2 weeks later sometimes when I've gone some where (within a couple miles) I'll put the bike on its kick stand and gas would pour either from the #1 or #2 carbs. It wasn't consistent in which it was. A lot of gas comes out though like its dumping the whole carb bowl. Then if that wasn't bad enough today I put it in prime to go to a market and fuel immediately started pouring from the #3 over flow. I'll be pulling them off the bike but I don't know if I can't go a couple days waiting for new Flouts it that's what it is. This is my to\from work bike. Any tips\ things to look at would be Much appreciated. Just as a side note I've been running sea foam as an additive in the fuel I'm not sure if that could have ate anything up? And it doesn't leak when running unless I'm stopped and even then it's rair

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Kz550 carb help 30 Jun 2015 06:01 #678818

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Assuming the carbs are overflowing through the overflow hose -

Fuel coming out of the overflow hose (the little hose on the bottom of the carb) is the common symptom of the 3 possible problems described below. Remember - NO SMOKING or other activities that could ignite the fuel while working on carbs!

The float valve is not sealing.
This may be (and probably is) just a matter of some minor dirt in the float valve and is very simple to remedy and can be done with the carbs still on the bike. Turn off fuel; drain carb by loosening big brass screw near bottom; and remove the 4 little screws on the bottom of the carb bowl. This will enable you to remove the carb bowl. You will then see the float. If you carefully remove the float you will see a stubby little needle that mates with a brass orifice; together, these two pieces are the float valve. Assuming there is no obvious damage to the needle or seat, use a Q-tip and some carb cleaner to clean the seat of the orifice and the needle. Be careful not to bend the tang that is attached to the float. This tang is the piece that the bottom of the float valve needle rests upon, and it determines the fuel level in the bowl, so bending it will change the fuel level. With the float valve cleaned it should no longer leak. To prevent a re-occurrence a quality inline fuel filter should be installed between the fuel tank and carbs. If there was damage the needle and seat should be replaced as a set; they are available.

The brass overflow tube inside the carb bowl is damaged
. When you remove the carb bowl you will see a brass tube attached inside and rising toward the top of the bowl. This is the overflow tube and it leads directly to the overflow nipple on the bottom of the carb. Normally, the fuel level within the bowl rises somewhat close to the top of this tube. If the tube becomes cracked or separates from the bottom of the carb bowl fuel will flow through it and out through the overflow hose. Checking the condition of the tube is very easy after you have removed the carb bowl from the carb. Simply hold the bowl level and fill it up near the top of the tube with water or alcohol and see if it leaks. A slight crack in the brass overflow tube can be difficult to find. You can connect a rubber tube to the overflow nipple, fill the bowl with water, put finger over the open end of the brass overflow tube and blow in the rubber end and look for bubbles. If it does the best remedy is to replace it although some folks have found creative ways to repair them.

The fuel level is set too high. This condition occurs when someone has bent the float tang as mentioned above. This condition can be checked using what is referred to as the "clear tube test." The test involves attaching one end of a clear piece of flexible tubing to the carb drain hole and holding the other end of the tube above the bowl/carb joint. When the fuel is turned on it should rise in the tube to a level 2.5 - 4.5 mm below the bowl/carb joint. If the fuel rises higher than that level it may run into the cylinders or over the upper end of the brass overflow inside the carb bowl (mentioned above) in which case it will run out the overflow hose. This condition is corrected by removing the float and gently bending the tang to raise the float valve needle position. Doing this may take several tries before achieving the desired fuel level.

Correcting each of these three conditions involves removing the carb bowl. This task can be made easier if a short screwdriver bit is used, and depending on which carb you are fixing a mirror may help you locate the screws on the bottom of the carb bowl. Also, it is not a bad idea to have a new carb bowl gasket available in case the old gasket is damaged while removing the carb bowl. Ed
1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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Kz550 carb help 30 Jun 2015 16:55 #678870

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Thanks for that. It's all the basics in one article. I'm off to the market to get some clear hose to help and I'll probably do a DIY carb sync. I'm praying I don't have to take these of the bike, it's a bitch as you probably know

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Kz550 carb help 30 Jun 2015 21:51 #678900

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Did the clear tube method and it went a bit above the bowl seal. So I took the carbs of and polished the float valve. Tomorrow I'm going to adjust the floats. Also there where little piles of super fine rust\gunk on the bottoms of every carb. Looks like it's time for an inline fuel filter. Also the floats do indeed float in gas

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