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Okay fellow members I have an 76 kz400 d3 and a 77 a1 that are in need of holders. Have read of guys using kawa part# 16065-1002 as alternatives, but have my doubts. Had a guy from the u.k. measure his nos set and they measured 36mm while mine are 42mm. Am I to get them and gamble or just wait? Anybody out there know if my old ones expanded..... Please help me out guyz

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All the info I gathered only required slotting the bolt holes. Come on,anyone ever did anything with these carb holders so I dont miss out on a nos set? HELP ME!! I have no motorcycle ride.......

According to Kawasaki, in the U.S., the KZ400 A1 is a 1977 model.

The 1976 models were S2 (special) and D3 (standard) models only.

In 1977 there was an A1 (deluxe), S3 (special), and a D4 (standard).

Before 1977 all carbs were piston type CV.

In 1977, the S and D got diaphragm type CV while the A got piston type CV.

In 1978, the B1 took over as the "Standard", and it had diaphragm CV. And the C1 took over as the "Special", and it also had diaphragm carbs. The A2 (deluxe) changed over to diaphragm CV carbs also.

The 1979 H1 (Ltd) along with B2 (standard), had diaphragm CV carbs.

So, it will depend on what year/model the engine is from to know what holders to get, and I'm not even sure which models use which size because Kawasaki.com seems to be inconsistent. There are apparently 3 part numbers:
16065-037
16065-048
16065-1002

I've made some holders for the piston carbs. Here are the dimensions I came up with.
It's for a 76 S2 and a 75 D2, according to Kawasaki.com.



I then attached the carbs with a section of heater hose. It's ugly, but worked great.

Alright. After a couple hours of diggin, here's what I have, but it doesn't really make total sense since the D3 and D4 use different carbs, but show the same carb holders...not impossible, but I wouldn't think it likely since the carbs are so different. Will have to investigate further later.

EDIT: The new Kawasaki.com parts fiche has straightened out some of the confusion. I will edit the list below to reflect the corrections.

The 74 model was not labeled with a letter-digit modifier, but it is essentially a D1.
The 75 models were also not fully labeled, but they were essentially S1 and D2.

---Older style motor---
1974 D1 (Standard) : piston CV with 16065-037

1975 D2 (Standard) : piston CV with 16065-037
1975 S1 (Special) : piston CV with 16065-037

1976 D3 (Sandard) : piston CV with 16065-037
1976 S2 (Special) : piston CV with 16065-037

1977 A1 (Deluxe) : piston CV with 16065-037
1977 D4 (Standard) : diaphragm CV with 16065-048
1977 S3 (Special) : diaphragm CV with 16065-048

1978 A2 (Deluxe) : diaphragm CV with 16065-048


--- Newer style motor ---
1978 B1 (Standard) : diaphragm CV with 16065-1002
1978 C1 (Special): diaphragm CV with 16065-1002

1979 B2 (Standard) : diaphragm CV with 16065-1002
1979 H1 (Ltd) : diaphragm CV with 16065-1002

Thanks for the info loud. Correction on the bikes..... Bobber is 76(9/75) while the other is 77 A1(1/77) both use piston type carbs. Now I know that the 16065-1002 will not work. Got one rigged up wish i could post a pic!! Not wat I wanted to do so i'm depressed at the moment

I hear your pain. Been through it a couple times.

If the bobber has a front disk brake and electric start, then it is likely a 76 D3.

The 76 S2 had drum in front, no electric starter, and I think no tach.

The bobber is a d3 I now remember that from the original owners manual that I lost!! The carbs are thesame cause I mismatched them together. So that means 037 and 048 are NOT the same....both no longer available also. This sucks big time!!!

So kzriders no luck yet but did see some universal ones on ebay. Wish somebody had a solution 2 this issue.... Anybody ever use these so-called universal carb holders??

uglee wrote: So kzriders no luck yet but did see some universal ones on ebay. Wish somebody had a solution 2 this issue.... Anybody ever use these so-called universal carb holders??

Item number?

item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=...HING&nid=43288548079

Hope the link posted..... What bout macyhining the carbs down??

No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configuration

uglee wrote: item.mobileweb.ebay.com/viewitem?itemId=...HING&nid=43288548079....

From the listing:

NEW RUBBER INTAKE MANIFOLD MADE BY MIKUNI.

UNIVERSAL FIT FOR MANY MAKES, MODELS AND YEARS.

AVAILABLE IN 60mm, 70mm & 75mm CENTER TO CENTER BETWEEN STUD / BOLT MOUNT HOLES.

AVAILABLE FOR CARBURETORS BETWEEN 26mm-40mm.

MOUNTS TO FLAT SURFACE, HAS BUILT IN O-RING SEAL.

LAYING FLAT MANIFOLD IS 25 MILLIMETERS TALL.