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Spring is definitely on its way. AND, let's not forget about British Columbia. It is still early enough to circulate it to our Canadian brothers like Killman and others.

Kaw-a-holic, We have a KZ Rider in Eastern California, Baldy. He may be able to transport the Flag into & through Nevada when he rides over for the KZ Rider Relay Rally. Hopefully we can get some Nevada residents to participate. AND, you might just be the first to relay the flag twice while living in two states!

As for Spdygon, the Relay Flag was in Georgia in 2012, I believe. Go to the link 650ed posted. It has the more complete story. I am starting to think we just make this an ongoing relay and when one flag gets filled up with signatures we create another flag. In a few years we could end up with this big ole quilt like thing!

I have it in Seattle currently and am ready to go, just need to know where and when so I can make plans. I went for a ride Saturday, it's been great up here. A little wet around the edges but nothing I'm not used to.

schuss wrote: I have it in Seattle currently and am ready to go, just need to know where and when so I can make plans. I went for a ride Saturday, it's been great up here. A little wet around the edges but nothing I'm not used to.

Hey Schuss good hearing from you and glad to read your weather is improving.

Here is an idea, why don't you see if you can stir Killman up. Maybe he has his KZ sorted out by now and can get the Flag into Canada for a quick spin this spring!

does anyone post pics of this flag relay........

spdygon wrote: does anyone post pics of this flag relay........

Many. They start here:

www.kzrider.com/forum/17-ride-reports/50...e-photo-album#508405

Ed

Forrest wrote:

schuss wrote: I have it in Seattle currently and am ready to go, just need to know where and when so I can make plans. I went for a ride Saturday, it's been great up here. A little wet around the edges but nothing I'm not used to.

Hey Schuss good hearing from you and glad to read your weather is improving.

Here is an idea, why don't you see if you can stir Killman up. Maybe he has his KZ sorted out by now and can get the Flag into Canada for a quick spin this spring!

Killman seems pretty busy with an H2 and doing taxes. Take the flag down to Motorhead or anybody south. It's time to ride!! Get it moving so we can complete the relay before the Rally starts. Time to get off the pot. It's been ten days since Shuss said the weather is good for riding and nothing has been planned. This thread should be hopping with activity and plans, but....Nothing!! Get on it you guys, time's a-wasting.

Okay, I've stayed away from this thread for quite a while, but I figure it's time to pop in a comment. It may not be popular, but some folks need to hear it.

I am busy right now, but that's not why I won't be participating. I found a lot of the attitude around the relay to be pretty negative last fall, and frankly, as a Canadian, I found it offensive. We're just as proud of our country as the Americans are of theirs. That's why I was so excited at the prospect of a North American ride. North America doesn't just mean, 'Merica, f**k YEAH! Our Provinces are pretty much the same thing as your states. Very different, very large, too. It was going to be an honour to try to include as many of them as possible. There's a whole lot of amazing country West of Ontario. Hell, I even wanted to try for Alaska.
I felt like the fat kid at the party, like it was a burden that I wanted to participate. I was under the impression that once I bowed out, the flag got hustled off South to California, to "complete" the relay. Although how you could figure it was going to be completed without hitting all of the states and provinces eludes me. If I'd known it was just going to sit in Seattle all winter I would've ignored all the hot air being blown around, finished off the bike and done something with the flag.
Now I just feel pretty negative towards the whole thing. Keep in mind there were some extremely supportive members that offered encouragement and advice, and I thank you guys genuinely. But if you're hearing enough negativity for long enough, the cool and fun factor shrivels up.
I was expending a lot of time and effort to be a part of this. It wasn't going to be a cheap or easy trip for me, either. That being said, I did learn a few things along the way, and I'm helping to organize a benefit ride in June for Killer Whales here on the Island. It's going to be a lot of fun. Like it should be.
No hard feelings on my part. Just try to keep in mind that this kind of thing is supposed to be a positive experience for everyone involved.
Ride safe and enjoy the rally.

The weather here was good for 2 days and is back to rain - 1 1/2 inches yesterday.

Killman wrote: Okay, I've stayed away from this thread for quite a while, but I figure it's time to pop in a comment. It may not be popular, but some folks need to hear it.

I am busy right now, but that's not why I won't be participating. I found a lot of the attitude around the relay to be pretty negative last fall, and frankly, as a Canadian, I found it offensive. We're just as proud of our country as the Americans are of theirs. That's why I was so excited at the prospect of a North American ride. North America doesn't just mean, 'Merica, f**k YEAH! Our Provinces are pretty much the same thing as your states. Very different, very large, too. It was going to be an honour to try to include as many of them as possible. There's a whole lot of amazing country West of Ontario. Hell, I even wanted to try for Alaska.
I felt like the fat kid at the party, like it was a burden that I wanted to participate. I was under the impression that once I bowed out, the flag got hustled off South to California, to "complete" the relay. Although how you could figure it was going to be completed without hitting all of the states and provinces eludes me. If I'd known it was just going to sit in Seattle all winter I would've ignored all the hot air being blown around, finished off the bike and done something with the flag.
Now I just feel pretty negative towards the whole thing. Keep in mind there were some extremely supportive members that offered encouragement and advice, and I thank you guys genuinely. But if you're hearing enough negativity for long enough, the cool and fun factor shrivels up.
I was expending a lot of time and effort to be a part of this. It wasn't going to be a cheap or easy trip for me, either. That being said, I did learn a few things along the way, and I'm helping to organize a benefit ride in June for Killer Whales here on the Island. It's going to be a lot of fun. Like it should be.
No hard feelings on my part. Just try to keep in mind that this kind of thing is supposed to be a positive experience for everyone involved.
Ride safe and enjoy the rally.

Killman,
Speaking for myself only, I'm surprised that your Canadian sensibilities are so easily sent reeling. You complain about negativity and then make comments like: "If I'd known it was just going to sit in Seattle all winter I would've ignored all the hot air being blown around, finished off the bike and done something with the flag." There are a lot of personalities here, not all of 'em are on the same page.
I suggest that you man up and get to work on your stuff, whatever that may be.
Bill

Killman wrote: Okay, I've stayed away from this thread for quite a while, but I figure it's time to pop in a comment. It may not be popular, but some folks need to hear it.

I am busy right now, but that's not why I won't be participating. I found a lot of the attitude around the relay to be pretty negative last fall, and frankly, as a Canadian, I found it offensive. We're just as proud of our country as the Americans are of theirs. That's why I was so excited at the prospect of a North American ride. North America doesn't just mean, 'Merica, f**k YEAH! Our Provinces are pretty much the same thing as your states. Very different, very large, too. It was going to be an honour to try to include as many of them as possible. There's a whole lot of amazing country West of Ontario. Hell, I even wanted to try for Alaska.
I felt like the fat kid at the party, like it was a burden that I wanted to participate. I was under the impression that once I bowed out, the flag got hustled off South to California, to "complete" the relay. Although how you could figure it was going to be completed without hitting all of the states and provinces eludes me. If I'd known it was just going to sit in Seattle all winter I would've ignored all the hot air being blown around, finished off the bike and done something with the flag.
Now I just feel pretty negative towards the whole thing. Keep in mind there were some extremely supportive members that offered encouragement and advice, and I thank you guys genuinely. But if you're hearing enough negativity for long enough, the cool and fun factor shrivels up.
I was expending a lot of time and effort to be a part of this. It wasn't going to be a cheap or easy trip for me, either. That being said, I did learn a few things along the way, and I'm helping to organize a benefit ride in June for Killer Whales here on the Island. It's going to be a lot of fun. Like it should be.
No hard feelings on my part. Just try to keep in mind that this kind of thing is supposed to be a positive experience for everyone involved.
Ride safe and enjoy the rally.

Wow! I must have missed part of this thread or something. I didn't see anyone turned down who was ready and willing to carry the flag. It is still in Seattle, so why not pick it up? Regarding the comment "...how you could figure it was going to be completed without hitting all of the states and provinces eludes me." - were there volunteers to ride the flag though all ten Canadian provinces? I don't recall that many Canadians asking to participate, so I figured folks there just don't own old motorcycles, the weather is too cold, or the distances are too far to travel. To my knowledge no one from any state, province, or territory has been denied the opportunity to carry the flag, but if there are no willing participants in some areas how can those area be represented? I'm confused. Ed

Wow! I must have missed part of this thread or something. I didn't see anyone turned down who was ready and willing to carry the flag. It is still in Seattle, so why not pick it up? Regarding the comment "...how you could figure it was going to be completed without hitting all of the states and provinces eludes me." - were there volunteers to ride the flag though all ten Canadian provinces? I don't recall that many Canadians asking to participate, so I figured folks there just don't own old motorcycles, the weather is too cold, or the distances are too far to travel. To my knowledge no one from any state, province, or territory has been denied the opportunity to carry the flag, but if there are no willing participants in some areas how can those area be represented? I'm confused. Ed

ABSOLUTELY!

No need to fire flames on a non-existent issue, or a "poor me" attitude, but as *I* recall, there have been a NUMBER of requests for Canadian participants - but precious FEW showed up to volunteer - and yeah, since the flag IS up near the border, WHERE ARE the Canadian volunteers NOW?

C'mon guys, both USA and Canadians, this is a GROUP effort, not a divisive or elitist one...

Ed, I am not confused at all. Bill and you pretty much summed it up. It is a shame that some KZ riders feel the need to rationalize their behavior and/or actions. It is a further shame that some here get too caught up in "hurry up & move The Flag" or "my feelings are hurt & I won't play with you now." When The Flag stalled in The Great Plains, I did not complain or criticize, I simply went out there, picked up The Flag and carried it to another positive attitude KZ Rider. Heck, that KZ Rider even damaged his bike and could have been seriously injured while transporting The Flag toward the Northwest from the Rocky Mountain States. Did he even once blame the KZ Rider Relay for his misfortune, NO! Because he is a mature man who made his own choices and is responsible for his own actions. He has been resilient and such a positive person that he will be at the KZ Rider Relay Rally with his repaired bike. He embodies the TRUE spirit of this KZ Rider Forum IMHO. Yes, I have been supportive to anyone willing to pick up the Relay Flag and carry it. However, it is abundantly clear it is time to move on. Let's just not move on with so much impatience or attitude that this turns into something it was never intended to be. Let's keep it fun & simple: Particpate & Enjoy Life, OR Don't Participate Yet Support Those That Do.

ATTN: Any positive open minded West Coast Canadians or Alaskans interested in participating in The NORTH AMERICAN Relay Ride? We would love to have you participate. All that is required is a vintage Kawasaki preferably a KZ or Z model(1970's, 1980's, even early 90's). OH!, and don't forget riding gear, at least a bit more than thin skin. Carry On! Literally... Carry On!