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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 26 Apr 2014 09:02 #630482

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If it was just pods and jetting, all four plugs wouldn't look so different.

As you open a throttle, the mixture gets richer. The faster you open it, the more rich it will be. So the symptom sounds like a rich condition. Plugs 1 and 4 look super rich and wet. Is it gas or oil?

I would also swap some ignition stuff around. Because it's 1 and 4, there may be an ignition issue for those two cylinders. They share ignition parts... coils and points.

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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 26 Apr 2014 10:11 #630495

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How long do these engines usually take to warm up at idle?
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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 26 Apr 2014 10:18 #630498

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At about 1300 rpm mine warms up enough to turn the choke all the way off and ride in about a minute or two depending on the outside air temperature. With the choke all the way off it idles at around 1000 rpm. Ed
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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 27 Apr 2014 13:01 #630595

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Okay update to the bogging issue. I have my pilot screws (under the carb, engine side) turned 4 turns out, and it reduces the bog. I understand that is more than double where they should be.

I am having a hard time finding out what circuit that pilot screw affects. Do I need to go bigger on the pilot again?

EDIT: 5 turns out and the condition is still getting better, almost gone.
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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 27 Apr 2014 18:48 #630628

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How about cleaning your carbs. Sounds like your idle circuit is partially blocked.


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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 30 Apr 2014 00:02 #630876

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Ok so here is the story guys, and I feel a bit dumb. As it turns out I just wasn't letting it warm up enough. I let it idle for a few minutes, and took it around the block about 10 times instead of the usual 2. On the last pass around it felt like a different machine. I set the pilot screws back at 1.5 turns out. As it is, I am pretty happy with the way it runs and will focus now on finishing the seat and brake/signals. Then it's time to paint.

I am about 95% sure I am going to do Kawasaki green.
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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 30 Apr 2014 10:31 #630924

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Plugs are looking much better, but I still need to buy a fresh set so I can better see what the cylinders are doing.

I'm still only on a bench sync so I need to invest in some vac gauges as well.

Procrastinating the seat, and slowly trying to find/make my parts.

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Tumbleweeds 1977 KZ650 Rebuild/Reform (Pic Heavy) 30 Apr 2014 12:26 #630928

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When you look into sync gauges if you see some like the ones below I can vouch for them being excellent. Before I got these I had a set of cheapies, and one of them quickly became very inaccurate. Ed



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